From wa6axe at verizon.net Tue Aug 7 05:51:46 2018 From: wa6axe at verizon.net (Joseph Glockner) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 05:51:46 -0400 Subject: [Dxbase] Neal Retired!! -- what does this mean for DXbase? Message-ID: <16513ccb155-c8e-59fa@webjas-vac111.srv.aolmail.net> This morning I went to Neal's website and found: Thank You Everyone! Hi All! I have decided to retire full-time and devote my time to my hobbies and some personal development projects. Therefore I have closed my company (abroham neal software) and will focus solely on personl (hobby) projects. I want to thank all my customers as well as help from my friends at Flex Radio for their help and support over the years! Neal - can you tell us what this means WRT DXbase? Tnx in advance! 73 Joe wa6axe Joseph Glockner wa6axe at verizon.net From nd4x at hotmail.com Tue Aug 7 06:56:34 2018 From: nd4x at hotmail.com (Paul Smith) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 10:56:34 +0000 Subject: [Dxbase] Neal Retired!! -- what does this mean for DXbase? In-Reply-To: <16513ccb155-c8e-59fa@webjas-vac111.srv.aolmail.net> References: <16513ccb155-c8e-59fa@webjas-vac111.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: Thank you for the heads-up Joe. One would have thought Neal would have at least sent out a message to the mailing list. 73 Paul - ND4X ________________________________________ From: dxbase-bounces at mailman.qth.net [dxbase-bounces at mailman.qth.net] on behalf of Joseph Glockner [wa6axe at verizon.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 4:51 AM To: dxbase at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Dxbase] Neal Retired!! -- what does this mean for DXbase? This morning I went to Neal's website and found: Thank You Everyone! Hi All! I have decided to retire full-time and devote my time to my hobbies and some personal development projects. Therefore I have closed my company (abroham neal software) and will focus solely on personl (hobby) projects. I want to thank all my customers as well as help from my friends at Flex Radio for their help and support over the years! Neal - can you tell us what this means WRT DXbase? Tnx in advance! 73 Joe wa6axe Joseph Glockner wa6axe at verizon.net ______________________________________________________________ Dxbase mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From n7ws at k6mhe.com Tue Aug 7 16:32:41 2018 From: n7ws at k6mhe.com (Wes N7WS) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 13:32:41 -0700 Subject: [Dxbase] Neal Retired!! -- what does this mean for DXbase? In-Reply-To: <16513ccb155-c8e-59fa@webjas-vac111.srv.aolmail.net> References: <16513ccb155-c8e-59fa@webjas-vac111.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: <906a40fa-6b4a-dd86-85e5-a022e3375b7b@k6mhe.com> What it means to me is that 1) I was screwed out of a promised update... although I knew this years ago; 2) I can consider buying a Flex radio again and 3) time to look for a new logging program, not that there was ever any support except from Joe. N7WS On 8/7/2018 2:51 AM, Joseph Glockner wrote: > > This morning I went to Neal's website and found: > > > > Thank You Everyone! > > Hi All! I have decided to retire full-time and devote my time to my hobbies and some personal development projects. Therefore I have closed my company (abroham neal software) and will focus solely on personl (hobby) projects. > I want to thank all my customers as well as help from my friends at Flex Radio for their help and support over the years! > > > > Neal - can you tell us what this means WRT DXbase? > > > Tnx in advance! > > > 73 Joe wa6axe > > > Joseph Glockner > wa6axe at verizon.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > Dxbase mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > From jimleahy at roadrunner.com Tue Aug 7 19:01:02 2018 From: jimleahy at roadrunner.com (jimleahy at roadrunner.com) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2018 02:01:02 +0300 Subject: [Dxbase] =?utf-8?q?Neal_Retired!!_--_what_does_this_mean_for_DXba?= =?utf-8?b?c2U/?= In-Reply-To: <906a40fa-6b4a-dd86-85e5-a022e3375b7b@k6mhe.com> References: <16513ccb155-c8e-59fa@webjas-vac111.srv.aolmail.net> <906a40fa-6b4a-dd86-85e5-a022e3375b7b@k6mhe.com> Message-ID: <1533682861.5748302@f2.my.com> As an old DXbase (from the DOS days) user, migrate to the DXlab suite. You?ll never look back. Top notch support, top notch program, top notch features and easy adif migration from DXlab. Do it.? Jim K2JL Sent from myMail for iOS Tuesday, August 7, 2018, 4:32 PM -0400 from n7ws at k6mhe.com : >What it means to me is that 1) I was screwed out of a promised update... >although I knew this years ago; 2) I can consider buying a Flex radio again and >3) time to look for a new logging program, not that there was ever any support >except from Joe. > >N7WS > > >On 8/7/2018 2:51 AM, Joseph Glockner wrote: >> >> This morning I went to Neal's website and found: >> >> >> >> Thank You Everyone! >> >> Hi All! I have decided to retire full-time and devote my time to my hobbies and some personal development projects. Therefore I have closed my company (abroham neal software) and will focus solely on personl (hobby) projects. >> I want to thank all my customers as well as help from my friends at Flex Radio for their help and support over the years! >> >> >> >> Neal - can you tell us what this means WRT DXbase? >> >> >> Tnx in advance! >> >> >> 73 Joe wa6axe >> >> >> Joseph Glockner >> wa6axe at verizon.net >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Dxbase mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > >______________________________________________________________ >Dxbase mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From kwidelitz at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 19:13:59 2018 From: kwidelitz at gmail.com (Ken Widelitz) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 16:13:59 -0700 Subject: [Dxbase] Neal Retired!! -- what does this mean for DXbase? In-Reply-To: <1533682861.5748302@f2.my.com> References: <16513ccb155-c8e-59fa@webjas-vac111.srv.aolmail.net> <906a40fa-6b4a-dd86-85e5-a022e3375b7b@k6mhe.com> <1533682861.5748302@f2.my.com> Message-ID: <010901d42ea4$52e376a0$f8aa63e0$@gmail.com> Here is the key question before migrating to another logger: Attention Joe: Are YOU still going to support DXBase??? 73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT From wa6axe at verizon.net Tue Aug 7 19:20:22 2018 From: wa6axe at verizon.net (Joseph Glockner) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 19:20:22 -0400 Subject: [Dxbase] Neal Retired!! -- what does this mean for DXbase? In-Reply-To: <010901d42ea4$52e376a0$f8aa63e0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <16516b0fd18-c87-3dd9e@webjas-vae167.srv.aolmail.net> Hi Ken, YES!!! I - as far as I can - will support what is left of DXbase2007. If it can be done by me - I will do it! There will be somethings that only Neal can do within the DXbase2007 coding itself ... If that be the case - and there is no GOOD work-around that I could come up with .. we are SOL!! 73 Joe wa6axe Joseph Glockner wa6axe at verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: Ken Widelitz To: dxbase Sent: Tue, Aug 7, 2018 6:14 pm Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Neal Retired!! -- what does this mean for DXbase? Here is the key question before migrating to another logger: Attention Joe: Are YOU still going to support DXBase??? 73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT ______________________________________________________________ Dxbase mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From crownhaven at bellsouth.net Wed Aug 8 12:12:38 2018 From: crownhaven at bellsouth.net (Crownhaven) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 11:12:38 -0500 Subject: [Dxbase] Neal Retired!! -- what does this mean for DXbase? In-Reply-To: <16516b0fd18-c87-3dd9e@webjas-vae167.srv.aolmail.net> References: <16516b0fd18-c87-3dd9e@webjas-vae167.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: <9934f402-8fb0-744b-6278-1c73e89bf1f3@bellsouth.net> From time to time, someone needs their key to re-install, lost, etc.? I wonder if Neal will still provide those or allow someone else to take possession of them? Steve, N4JQQ On 8/7/2018 6:20 PM, Joseph Glockner wrote: > Hi Ken, > > > YES!!! I - as far as I can - will support what is left of DXbase2007. > > If it can be done by me - I will do it! > > > > There will be somethings that only Neal can do within the DXbase2007 > > coding itself ... If that be the case - and there is no GOOD work-around > > that I could come up with .. we are SOL!! > > > 73 Joe wa6axe > > > > > > Joseph Glockner > wa6axe at verizon.net > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Widelitz > To: dxbase > Sent: Tue, Aug 7, 2018 6:14 pm > Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Neal Retired!! -- what does this mean for DXbase? > > Here is the key question before migrating to another logger: > > Attention Joe: > > Are YOU still going to support DXBase??? > > 73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Dxbase mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > Dxbase mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > From wa6axe at verizon.net Wed Aug 8 12:39:13 2018 From: wa6axe at verizon.net (Joseph Glockner) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 12:39:13 -0400 Subject: [Dxbase] Neal Retired!! -- what does this mean for DXbase? In-Reply-To: <9934f402-8fb0-744b-6278-1c73e89bf1f3@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <1651a681483-c8e-23b09@webjas-vab122.srv.aolmail.net> Steve, Neal already posted the following: I will be happy to send a registration file to anyone who wants one for free as well as resend one if I have it on file. Neal K3NC ALSO - Neal gave me the DXbase2007 reg key MAKER program - so that I could help people directly without me having to ask Neal for ghe reg key -- so, I WILL be able to provide a new reg key for DXbase2007 upon request to me.. 73, Joseph Glockner wa6axe at verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: Crownhaven To: dxbase Sent: Wed, Aug 8, 2018 11:12 am Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Neal Retired!! -- what does this mean for DXbase? >From time to time, someone needs their key to re-install, lost, etc. I wonder if Neal will still provide those or allow someone else to take possession of them?Steve, N4JQQOn 8/7/2018 6:20 PM, Joseph Glockner wrote:> Hi Ken,>>> YES!!! I - as far as I can - will support what is left of DXbase2007.>> If it can be done by me - I will do it!>>>> There will be somethings that only Neal can do within the DXbase2007>> coding itself ... If that be the case - and there is no GOOD work-around>> that I could come up with .. we are SOL!!>>> 73 Joe wa6axe>> >> >> Joseph Glockner> wa6axe at verizon.net>> >> >> -----Original Message-----> From: Ken Widelitz > To: dxbase > Sent: Tue, Aug 7, 2018 6:14 pm> Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Neal Retired!! -- what does this mean for DXbase?>> Here is the key question before migrating to another logger:>> Attention Joe:>> Are YOU still going to support DXBase???>> 73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT>>>> ______________________________________________________________> Dxbase mailing list> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html>> ______________________________________________________________> Dxbase mailing list> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html>______________________________________________________________Dxbase mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbaseHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From bmarx at bellsouth.net Wed Aug 8 12:39:27 2018 From: bmarx at bellsouth.net (Bill M) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 12:39:27 -0400 Subject: [Dxbase] Neal Retired!! -- what does this mean for DXbase? In-Reply-To: <9934f402-8fb0-744b-6278-1c73e89bf1f3@bellsouth.net> References: <16516b0fd18-c87-3dd9e@webjas-vae167.srv.aolmail.net> <9934f402-8fb0-744b-6278-1c73e89bf1f3@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <147DAAE0-8F91-4535-9DEA-ACB3961AB780@bellsouth.net> He retired from his job and PC business to spend time on his hobbies and projects. Why not wait a bit to see what he means? Bill W2CQ > On Aug 8, 2018, at 12:12 PM, Crownhaven wrote: > > From time to time, someone needs their key to re-install, lost, etc. I wonder if Neal will still provide those or allow someone else to take possession of them? > > Steve, N4JQQ > >> On 8/7/2018 6:20 PM, Joseph Glockner wrote: >> Hi Ken, >> >> >> YES!!! I - as far as I can - will support what is left of DXbase2007. >> >> If it can be done by me - I will do it! >> >> >> >> There will be somethings that only Neal can do within the DXbase2007 >> >> coding itself ... If that be the case - and there is no GOOD work-around >> >> that I could come up with .. we are SOL!! >> >> >> 73 Joe wa6axe >> >> >> >> Joseph Glockner >> wa6axe at verizon.net >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ken Widelitz >> To: dxbase >> Sent: Tue, Aug 7, 2018 6:14 pm >> Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Neal Retired!! -- what does this mean for DXbase? >> >> Here is the key question before migrating to another logger: >> >> Attention Joe: >> >> Are YOU still going to support DXBase??? >> >> 73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Dxbase mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Dxbase mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Dxbase mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From n4kwpete at centurylink.net Wed Aug 8 12:47:26 2018 From: n4kwpete at centurylink.net (Pete Raymond) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 12:47:26 -0400 Subject: [Dxbase] Fwd: Re: Neal Retired!! -- what does this mean for DXbase? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <826843c5-e173-312a-8083-ec8247a4a8ea@centurylink.net> -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Neal Retired!! -- what does this mean for DXbase? Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 12:44:56 -0400 From: Pete Raymond To: Joseph Glockner I do not know why people are surprised by Neal's action.? Look back to when he purchased DXBase, he did absolutely nothing with it and and it was easy to see early that he was way out of his element.? A number of us left as the writing was on the wall years ago.? I had been with DXBase when it first surfaced back in the DOS days. Without Joe it would have imploded years ago.? There is only one way to save it and that would be to purchase the rights to the software from Neal and have Joe as your CEO.? Actually he should give the rights to Joe as he does not deserve any money for what he did to a great logging program and all his broken promises. ?If DXBase is no longer available and you want to try another logging program try DXLab it is all free and customer support is second to none.? The architect of the software is an active ham and will answer all your questions.? You will be pleasantly surprised at the support you will get as you become familiar with the software. No I do not have anything to do with DXLab but I recall vividly how frustrated I was with DXBase's Owner when I left.? Nothing ventured nothing gained.? Just trying to give you an alternative. Goo Luck and hope Joe can take it over for you! 73, Pete, N4KW On 8/7/2018 5:51 AM, Joseph Glockner wrote: > > This morning I went to Neal's website and found: > > > > Thank You Everyone! > > Hi All! I have decided to retire full-time and devote my time to my hobbies and some personal development projects. Therefore I have closed my company (abroham neal software) and will focus solely on personl (hobby) projects. > I want to thank all my customers as well as help from my friends at Flex Radio for their help and support over the years! > > > > Neal - can you tell us what this means WRT DXbase? > > > Tnx in advance! > > > 73 Joe wa6axe > > > Joseph Glockner > wa6axe at verizon.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > Dxbase mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > From john at radiophile.com Sun Aug 12 07:46:02 2018 From: john at radiophile.com (John Pelham) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 07:46:02 -0400 Subject: [Dxbase] Neal Retired!! -- what does this mean for DXbase? In-Reply-To: <1651a681483-c8e-23b09@webjas-vab122.srv.aolmail.net> References: <9934f402-8fb0-744b-6278-1c73e89bf1f3@bellsouth.net> <1651a681483-c8e-23b09@webjas-vab122.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: <000f01d43232$0c6b9e00$2542da00$@radiophile.com> > >I will be happy to send a registration file to anyone who wants one for free as well as resend one if I have it on file. >>Neal >>K3NC That's not enough. What happens if Neal (or Joe, now that he has the key maker) changes his mind, or dies? Neal should 1. Produce a version that doesn't require registration and release it, and 2. Make DXbase open source. That is, put the source code on GitHub so that other developers may do the work of improving it and updating it. 73, John W1JA -----Original Message----- From: dxbase-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:dxbase-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joseph Glockner Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 12:39 PM To: crownhaven at bellsouth.net; dxbase at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Neal Retired!! -- what does this mean for DXbase? Steve, Neal already posted the following: I will be happy to send a registration file to anyone who wants one for free as well as resend one if I have it on file. Neal K3NC ALSO - Neal gave me the DXbase2007 reg key MAKER program - so that I could help people directly without me having to ask Neal for ghe reg key -- so, I WILL be able to provide a new reg key for DXbase2007 upon request to me.. 73, Joseph Glockner wa6axe at verizon.net From wa6axe at hotmail.com Sun Aug 12 17:27:50 2018 From: wa6axe at hotmail.com (Joe WA6AXE) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 21:27:50 +0000 Subject: [Dxbase] Neal Retired!! -- what does this mean for DXbase? In-Reply-To: <000f01d43232$0c6b9e00$2542da00$@radiophile.com> References: <9934f402-8fb0-744b-6278-1c73e89bf1f3@bellsouth.net> <1651a681483-c8e-23b09@webjas-vab122.srv.aolmail.net>, <000f01d43232$0c6b9e00$2542da00$@radiophile.com> Message-ID: Hi John, As for myself - at the age of 74, I feel I have some more years on the clock.. I will make a NEW REG file for anyone that requests it of me!! 73 Joe wa6axe ________________________________ From: dxbase-bounces at mailman.qth.net on behalf of John Pelham Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 6:46 AM To: dxbase at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Neal Retired!! -- what does this mean for DXbase? > >I will be happy to send a registration file to anyone who wants one for free as well as resend one if I have it on file. >>Neal >>K3NC That's not enough. What happens if Neal (or Joe, now that he has the key maker) changes his mind, or dies? Neal should 1. Produce a version that doesn't require registration and release it, and 2. Make DXbase open source. That is, put the source code on GitHub so that other developers may do the work of improving it and updating it. 73, John W1JA -----Original Message----- From: dxbase-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:dxbase-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joseph Glockner Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 12:39 PM To: crownhaven at bellsouth.net; dxbase at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Neal Retired!! -- what does this mean for DXbase? Steve, Neal already posted the following: I will be happy to send a registration file to anyone who wants one for free as well as resend one if I have it on file. Neal K3NC ALSO - Neal gave me the DXbase2007 reg key MAKER program - so that I could help people directly without me having to ask Neal for ghe reg key -- so, I WILL be able to provide a new reg key for DXbase2007 upon request to me.. 73, Joseph Glockner wa6axe at verizon.net ______________________________________________________________ Dxbase mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From charlie at thegallos.com Sun Aug 12 20:35:23 2018 From: charlie at thegallos.com (Charles Gallo) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 20:35:23 -0400 Subject: [Dxbase] Neal Retired!! -- what does this mean for DXbase? In-Reply-To: <000f01d43232$0c6b9e00$2542da00$@radiophile.com> References: <9934f402-8fb0-744b-6278-1c73e89bf1f3@bellsouth.net> <1651a681483-c8e-23b09@webjas-vab122.srv.aolmail.net> <000f01d43232$0c6b9e00$2542da00$@radiophile.com> Message-ID: <057611ce0ab0802b0ab5ad15367c6a4e.squirrel@wwwss50.a2hosting.com> OOn Sun, August 12, 2018 7:46 am, John Pelham wrote: > That's not enough. What happens if Neal (or Joe, now that he has the key > maker) changes his mind, or dies? > > Neal should > 1. Produce a version that doesn't require registration and release it, and > 2. Make DXbase open source. That is, put the source code on GitHub so > that other developers may do the work of improving it and updating it. > > 73, > John W1JA Neil does not owe you this. It might be NICE if he did, but what he has done is "enough" - he could have just stopped issuing licenses too. Interestingly, although I've never seen the code, just being a developer, and having talked to Neil years ago, I can tell you that the reports/print module uses what at least used to be called "List and Labels" by Combit GMBH. At one time it was sold in the USA by a company called Microhelp. One of the issues you will run into is the cost of L&L. The Pro Version of the current product is 1428 Euros, the "standard" edition is 733.50 Euros (Gross Price - the price without VAT is there) (Disclaimer - Last time I used L&L was in the days of VB3 - not .NET!) I also gather that the code base used some things that are now very obsolete, and porting is not going to be fun. I don't think it is in .NET, and BTW, those prices above are for the .NET version, I don't think they sell the old versions anymore. Basically you are going to have some huge issues For all intents, Microsoft no longer supports MDI forms (yes, Winforms Still does - but) This is the Window that contains all the other Windows - Microsoft has said "Don't do that" The Database is in Access 2.0 format. Again, don't do that, in fact, they really don't want you developing against Access - You develop against SQL Server Express. If you are going to make THAT change, you are probably better off going to MySQL. Honest? The two hardest parts are the database design (and you can see THAT if you open the database in an old copy of Access) and the reports/labels (See L&L above) About 4-5 years ago, I spent a lot of time thinking about writing a logger (THAT was about the time I realized DXBase was never going to have a new version - Sorry Neil). I was encouraged to do so by a few people, and I started to think about the amount of work involved My conclusion was that it isn't viable to write a logger, except as a labor of love. There are a few pretty darned good ones (both general purpose and contest - see dxLabs and N1MM, Logger32 etc) that are free. Hams, frankly, are a frugal bunch (OK cue jokes about how wire was invented), and when you realize that to make a mature logger of say DXBase quality is a multi man year effort (OK, say it is even 1 man year) - today a good developer earns in the 6 figure range. Call it 100K, and the total development effort at $130K. The most expensive logging program out there is Logic - at $200. That means to break even, assuming no support costs, you have to sell 650 units. Doubtful at that price. The answer really comes down to, pick another logger, and go for it, the work to upgrade dxbase at this point is too large to be realistic 73 de KG2V Charlie From billturney at aol.com Thu Aug 23 18:11:26 2018 From: billturney at aol.com (Bill Turney) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 18:11:26 -0400 Subject: [Dxbase] mdb 2 adif Message-ID: <16568d79f1d-1ebd-a94f@webjas-vaa102.srv.aolmail.net> Wondering if anyone can help me convert a dxBase 2001 MDB file to adif. Thanks WS4Y From wa6axe at verizon.net Thu Aug 23 18:46:54 2018 From: wa6axe at verizon.net (Joseph Glockner) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 18:46:54 -0400 Subject: [Dxbase] mdb 2 adif In-Reply-To: <16568d79f1d-1ebd-a94f@webjas-vaa102.srv.aolmail.net> References: <16568d79f1d-1ebd-a94f@webjas-vaa102.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: <16568f81aba-1ebb-aaa9@webjas-vae119.srv.aolmail.net> Hi Bill, PSE ZIP-UP your DXB2001 mdb file and email it to me -- I have the OLDER DXbase versions available here and will import your mdb file and then when I finally import it into DXbase2007, I will make you your adif file and will email it back to you! 73 Joe wa6axe Joseph Glockner wa6axe at verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: Bill Turney via Dxbase To: dxbase Sent: Thu, Aug 23, 2018 5:11 pm Subject: [Dxbase] mdb 2 adif Wondering if anyone can help me convert a dxBase 2001 MDB file to adif. Thanks WS4Y ______________________________________________________________ Dxbase mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From rharris283 at aol.com Mon Aug 27 20:43:14 2018 From: rharris283 at aol.com (rharris283 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 20:43:14 -0400 Subject: [Dxbase] Converting DXBase 2007 to adif file for import to another program Message-ID: <1657dfc0a80-1ebb-1ca04@webjas-vad150.srv.aolmail.net> How do I create an adif file from my database .mdb file? It's time for me to move on to another logging program. I have been with DXBase since the DOS days. Bob WB2UBW From wa6axe at verizon.net Mon Aug 27 20:47:21 2018 From: wa6axe at verizon.net (Joseph Glockner) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 20:47:21 -0400 Subject: [Dxbase] Converting DXBase 2007 to adif file for import to another program In-Reply-To: <1657dfc0a80-1ebb-1ca04@webjas-vad150.srv.aolmail.net> References: <1657dfc0a80-1ebb-1ca04@webjas-vad150.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: <1657dffcef9-1ebc-38a1@webjas-vaa016.srv.aolmail.net> Bob, Go to the Selection Wizard and EXPORT your complete logbook to an ADIF file ... Main Menu / Tools/ Selection Wizard .. Open Wizard and DO NOT have any checkmarks in the QSO Filters -- Select out type ADI file ... GL Bob! 73 Joseph Glockner wa6axe at verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: Bob via Dxbase To: Dxbase Sent: Mon, Aug 27, 2018 7:43 pm Subject: [Dxbase] Converting DXBase 2007 to adif file for import to another program How do I create an adif file from my database .mdb file? It's time for me to move on to another logging program. I have been with DXBase since the DOS days. Bob WB2UBW ______________________________________________________________ Dxbase mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From greene5758 at hotmail.com Mon Aug 27 22:10:04 2018 From: greene5758 at hotmail.com (Rod Greene) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 02:10:04 +0000 Subject: [Dxbase] Converting DXBase 2007 to adif file for import to another program In-Reply-To: <1657dffcef9-1ebc-38a1@webjas-vaa016.srv.aolmail.net> References: <1657dfc0a80-1ebb-1ca04@webjas-vad150.srv.aolmail.net>, <1657dffcef9-1ebc-38a1@webjas-vaa016.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: Bob, I?m close to the same decision. What logger did you chose? 73, and GL, Rod/w7zrc > On Aug 27, 2018, at 6:47 PM, Joseph Glockner wrote: > > > Bob, > > > Go to the Selection Wizard and EXPORT your complete logbook to > an ADIF file ... > > > Main Menu / Tools/ Selection Wizard .. > > > > Open Wizard and DO NOT have any checkmarks in the QSO Filters > -- Select out type ADI file ... > > > GL Bob! > > > 73 > > > > > > Joseph Glockner > wa6axe at verizon.net > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob via Dxbase > To: Dxbase > Sent: Mon, Aug 27, 2018 7:43 pm > Subject: [Dxbase] Converting DXBase 2007 to adif file for import to another program > > > How do I create an adif file from my database .mdb file? It's time for me to move on to another logging program. I have been with DXBase since the DOS days. > > > Bob WB2UBW > ______________________________________________________________ > Dxbase mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > Dxbase mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From w8tn at ntelos.net Tue Aug 28 09:21:02 2018 From: w8tn at ntelos.net (Clark L. Stewart) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 09:21:02 -0400 Subject: [Dxbase] Converting DXBase 2007 to adif file for import to another program In-Reply-To: References: <1657dfc0a80-1ebb-1ca04@webjas-vad150.srv.aolmail.net> <1657dffcef9-1ebc-38a1@webjas-vaa016.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: Rod, I reluctantly made the decision to move on from DXBase 10 years ago!? However, I still watch this reflector and am seriously indebted to Joe, WA6AXE, for his fantastic help in the past.? He has become the "heart and soul" of DXBase. When I decided to leave DXBase (after religiously buying the new version every year at the Dayton Hamvention since the early DOS days), I looked at all the major logging programs which were available at that time to find a replacement for DXBase.? In the end I chose to go with Logger32 (http://logger32.net/) and have been extremely pleased with it for 10 years now.? Updates to the program come pretty much every week and it performs (in my opinion) flawlessly!? I am VERY pleased with Logger32 and no longer miss DXBase. 73, Clark, W8TN On 8/27/2018 10:10 PM, Rod Greene wrote: > Bob, I?m close to the same decision. What logger did you chose? 73, and GL, Rod/w7zrc > >> On Aug 27, 2018, at 6:47 PM, Joseph Glockner wrote: >> >> >> Bob, >> >> >> Go to the Selection Wizard and EXPORT your complete logbook to >> an ADIF file ... >> >> >> Main Menu / Tools/ Selection Wizard .. >> >> >> >> Open Wizard and DO NOT have any checkmarks in the QSO Filters >> -- Select out type ADI file ... >> >> >> GL Bob! >> >> >> 73 >> >> >> >> >> >> Joseph Glockner >> wa6axe at verizon.net >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bob via Dxbase >> To: Dxbase >> Sent: Mon, Aug 27, 2018 7:43 pm >> Subject: [Dxbase] Converting DXBase 2007 to adif file for import to another program >> >> >> How do I create an adif file from my database .mdb file? It's time for me to move on to another logging program. I have been with DXBase since the DOS days. >> >> >> Bob WB2UBW >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Dxbase mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Dxbase mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > Dxbase mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > From it9vdq at gmail.com Tue Aug 28 09:28:57 2018 From: it9vdq at gmail.com (Giuseppe Giunta) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 15:28:57 +0200 Subject: [Dxbase] Converting DXBase 2007 to adif file for import to another program In-Reply-To: References: <1657dfc0a80-1ebb-1ca04@webjas-vad150.srv.aolmail.net> <1657dffcef9-1ebc-38a1@webjas-vaa016.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: <9e8e8317-7078-2fd4-d024-fdbc1ce4dd60@gmail.com> Ciao All, I agree with Clark! DXbase user since Dos time, I changed more than six years ago to Logger32: fully satisfied! 73 de Giu, IT9VDQ PS: grazie di tutto :-) , Joe WA6AXE Il 28/08/2018 15:21, Clark L. Stewart ha scritto: > Rod, > > I reluctantly made the decision to move on from DXBase 10 years ago!? > However, I still watch this reflector and am seriously indebted to > Joe, WA6AXE, for his fantastic help in the past.? He has become the > "heart and soul" of DXBase. > > When I decided to leave DXBase (after religiously buying the new > version every year at the Dayton Hamvention since the early DOS days), > I looked at all the major logging programs which were available at > that time to find a replacement for DXBase.? In the end I chose to go > with Logger32 (http://logger32.net/) and have been extremely pleased > with it for 10 years now.? Updates to the program come pretty much > every week and it performs (in my opinion) flawlessly!? I am VERY > pleased with Logger32 and no longer miss DXBase. > > > 73, Clark, W8TN > > > On 8/27/2018 10:10 PM, Rod Greene wrote: >> Bob, I?m close to the same decision. What logger did you chose?? 73, >> and GL, Rod/w7zrc >> >>> On Aug 27, 2018, at 6:47 PM, Joseph Glockner >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Bob, >>> >>> >>> Go to the Selection Wizard and EXPORT your complete logbook to >>> an ADIF file ... >>> >>> >>> Main Menu / Tools/ Selection Wizard .. >>> >>> >>> >>> Open Wizard and DO NOT have any checkmarks in the QSO Filters >>> -- Select out type ADI file ... >>> >>> >>> GL Bob! >>> >>> >>> 73 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Joseph Glockner >>> wa6axe at verizon.net >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Bob via Dxbase >>> To: Dxbase >>> Sent: Mon, Aug 27, 2018 7:43 pm >>> Subject: [Dxbase] Converting DXBase 2007 to adif file for import to >>> another program >>> >>> >>> How do I create an adif file from my database .mdb file? It's time >>> for me to move on to another logging program. I have been with >>> DXBase since the DOS days. >>> >>> >>> Bob WB2UBW >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Dxbase mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Dxbase mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Dxbase mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Dxbase mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From greene5758 at hotmail.com Tue Aug 28 12:56:08 2018 From: greene5758 at hotmail.com (Rod Greene) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 16:56:08 +0000 Subject: [Dxbase] Converting DXBase 2007 to adif file for import to another program In-Reply-To: References: <1657dfc0a80-1ebb-1ca04@webjas-vad150.srv.aolmail.net> <1657dffcef9-1ebc-38a1@webjas-vaa016.srv.aolmail.net> , Message-ID: Thanks all for your comments! I appreciate the info. I too have been a long time DXBase user and have greatly appreciated Joe's help and service. Not sure what I'll change to, but will definitely check out Logger32 and HRD. I already have a HRD license but haven't done anything with the Log portion. 73 and GL! Rod/w7zrc ________________________________ From: dxbase-bounces at mailman.qth.net on behalf of Clark L. Stewart Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2018 7:21 AM To: dxbase at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Converting DXBase 2007 to adif file for import to another program Rod, I reluctantly made the decision to move on from DXBase 10 years ago! However, I still watch this reflector and am seriously indebted to Joe, WA6AXE, for his fantastic help in the past. He has become the "heart and soul" of DXBase. When I decided to leave DXBase (after religiously buying the new version every year at the Dayton Hamvention since the early DOS days), I looked at all the major logging programs which were available at that time to find a replacement for DXBase. In the end I chose to go with Logger32 (http://logger32.net/) and have been extremely pleased with it for 10 Logger32 logger32.net Introduction. Welcome to Logger32, a 32-bit Amateur Radio logging program written by Bob Furzer, K4CY. Bob is also the author of Zakanaka, and an older 16-bit version of Logger. years now. Updates to the program come pretty much every week and it performs (in my opinion) flawlessly! I am VERY pleased with Logger32 and no longer miss DXBase. 73, Clark, W8TN On 8/27/2018 10:10 PM, Rod Greene wrote: > Bob, I?m close to the same decision. What logger did you chose? 73, and GL, Rod/w7zrc > >> On Aug 27, 2018, at 6:47 PM, Joseph Glockner wrote: >> >> >> Bob, >> >> >> Go to the Selection Wizard and EXPORT your complete logbook to >> an ADIF file ... >> >> >> Main Menu / Tools/ Selection Wizard .. >> >> >> >> Open Wizard and DO NOT have any checkmarks in the QSO Filters >> -- Select out type ADI file ... >> >> >> GL Bob! >> >> >> 73 >> >> >> >> >> >> Joseph Glockner >> wa6axe at verizon.net >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bob via Dxbase >> To: Dxbase >> Sent: Mon, Aug 27, 2018 7:43 pm >> Subject: [Dxbase] Converting DXBase 2007 to adif file for import to another program >> >> >> How do I create an adif file from my database .mdb file? It's time for me to move on to another logging program. I have been with DXBase since the DOS days. >> >> >> Bob WB2UBW >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Dxbase mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Dxbase mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > Dxbase mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ Dxbase mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From nd4x at hotmail.com Tue Aug 28 14:03:31 2018 From: nd4x at hotmail.com (Paul Smith) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 18:03:31 +0000 Subject: [Dxbase] Converting DXBase 2007 to adif file for import to another program In-Reply-To: References: <1657dfc0a80-1ebb-1ca04@webjas-vad150.srv.aolmail.net>, <1657dffcef9-1ebc-38a1@webjas-vaa016.srv.aolmail.net>, Message-ID: I jumped ship about 2 weeks before Neal made his announcement. DXbase uses some non-standard fields, so the ADIF has some unique things in it, but HRD imported most without any issues. Been with DXbase since DOS also, but handwriting was on the wall so I moved on. Paul ________________________________ From: dxbase-bounces at mailman.qth.net on behalf of Rod Greene Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 9:10 PM To: Joseph Glockner Cc: Dxbase at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Converting DXBase 2007 to adif file for import to another program Bob, I?m close to the same decision. What logger did you chose? 73, and GL, Rod/w7zrc > On Aug 27, 2018, at 6:47 PM, Joseph Glockner wrote: > > > Bob, > > > Go to the Selection Wizard and EXPORT your complete logbook to > an ADIF file ... > > > Main Menu / Tools/ Selection Wizard .. > > > > Open Wizard and DO NOT have any checkmarks in the QSO Filters > -- Select out type ADI file ... > > > GL Bob! > > > 73 > > > > > > Joseph Glockner > wa6axe at verizon.net > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob via Dxbase > To: Dxbase > Sent: Mon, Aug 27, 2018 7:43 pm > Subject: [Dxbase] Converting DXBase 2007 to adif file for import to another program > > > How do I create an adif file from my database .mdb file? It's time for me to move on to another logging program. I have been with DXBase since the DOS days. > > > Bob WB2UBW > ______________________________________________________________ > Dxbase mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > Dxbase mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Dxbase mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dxbase at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html