[Dxbase] missing info in LoTW output
Neal Campbell
nealk3nc at gmail.com
Wed May 14 18:03:00 EDT 2014
Clark
My apologies!
I didn't get the message and installed Logger32 but didn't look in the
program directory for some reason! I have it, thanks so much for the heads
up!
73
Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal LLC
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Clark L. Stewart <w8tn at ntelos.net> wrote:
> Neal,
>
> I responded to you last night (to your Gmail address) with
> instructions on how to download the file from my server. Did you not
> receive that email? You responded below to the first email I sent to the
> Reflector and not to the email I sent direct to your Gmail so I'm wondering
> if you saw that email?
>
> I will re-send the email to your Gmail now, in case it got lost. If
> you can't download from my server, you can download Logger32 (
> http://www.logger32.net/) and install it and ARRL Scraper will be in the
> Logger32 directory.
>
>
> 73, Clark, W8TN
>
>
>
> On 5/14/2014 5:13 PM, Neal Campbell wrote:
>
>> Clark
>>
>> I could not figure out how to download the scraper, any ideas where i
>> need to go?
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Neal Campbell
>> Abroham Neal LLC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Clark L. Stewart <w8tn at ntelos.net<mailto:
>> w8tn at ntelos.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Jim,
>>
>> I am also an "Old Timer" and my DXCC records look just as you
>> described. However, since I have migrated to using Logger32 as my
>> logging program, I find there is a solution to updating your
>> logger records to those of the ARRL.
>>
>> The first solution I used (in 2011) was a program written by
>> Marek, SP7DQR. It was called "LoTW to Logger32 v 1.0.1" and it
>> would read your DXCC records from LoTW and automatically update
>> those (which it could find the Date and Time for) with the
>> corresponding records in Logger32. When I ran this it updated
>> 2,065 QSO's as "Granted" by ARRL but gave me 211 QSO's it could
>> not match. Those I had to do by hand.
>>
>> Logger32 has now added a stand-alone program called "ARRL
>> Scraper" which does the same thing. Here is a link to the Help
>> file describing that process:
>>
>> http://www.logger32.net/help/Logger32/arrl%20scraper.htm
>>
>> I have used the ARRL Scraper program for another ham and it
>> worked similarly to SP7DQR's program. That is, about 90% of the
>> QSO's were able to be automatically updated to "Granted" status
>> and the remainder had to be done manually.
>>
>> Some of my DXCC records would look like this:
>>
>> Callsign Date Band Mode ADIF # QSL/LoTW
>> 381 19451115 UNKNO SSB 381 QSL
>>
>> Without even a callsign and an obviously wrong date (I wasn't
>> born until 1948!), it is very hard to find that QSO. The 381 in
>> the Callsign field is just the ADIF number for that country (9V,
>> Singapore) so you could search for that country and try to figure
>> out which one had been submitted to ARRL. However, the lack of a
>> "Band" on that ARRL Credit meant that I needed to find those QSL's
>> and submit them again to ARRL to get credit for Singapore on
>> whatever band it was. Without the Band credit, I had no credit on
>> the Challenge Award for that QSO/QSL.
>>
>> So, there is a solution (sort of) that can give you "Granted"
>> status of approximately 90% of your DXCC records (more or less
>> depending on how long you have been a DX'er.) I thought I would
>> supply this information so that Joe or Neal would be aware of the
>> possibility of doing at least part of this in an automated way. I
>> think the ARRL Scraper program just matches those that it can and
>> then dumps out a list of those that it could not match and you
>> need to do those manually.
>>
>> If no one writes such a program for DXbase, you could import
>> your log into Logger32, run this ARRL Scraper program, update your
>> log with the "Granted" status, and export it from Logger32 to be
>> imported into DXbase.
>>
>>
>> 73, Clark, W8TN
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/13/2014 12:32 PM, Jim Spears wrote:
>>
>> One detail that it appears that folks are missing is that
>> there are
>> essentially two distinct periods in DXCC history. For many
>> years, qso
>> information was not recorded for credit to one's CW, PHONE,
>> MIXED, or RTTY
>> standing. DXCC records were manually kept. So one could have
>> DXCC credit
>> for various entities including mode but nothing else.
>>
>>
>> Somewhere along the way, the records were converted to a
>> database of some
>> sort but information that had not been previously recorded was
>> not added
>> since it was not present. Additionally, single band awards
>> were added.
>>
>>
>> When I look at my present LoTW data, there are some entities
>> that I have
>> MIXED, CW -and/or PHONE - credit for but no call sign and no qso
>> information. Only the fact that I was given credit for the
>> entity at some
>> point in the past. FT8Z is an example, I have credit for the
>> entity and
>> mode=PHONE but no call sign and no qso information. This will
>> get updated
>> real soon as my FT8ZR confirmations showed up in my LoTW
>> account this
>> morning.
>>
>>
>> IMHO it is for this reason (perhaps among others) that N7WS's
>> request to
>> populate the DXbase Award field cannot be automated. And this
>> explains why
>> some of the example adi records look as they do.
>>
>>
>> This should not apply to folks who started DXCC after the
>> record keeping was
>> automated. But in this case, I am unable to figure out a
>> method to extract
>> only the qsos that were awarded for a DXCC mode/band/entity
>> entry. I have
>> often wanted to do the same thing as N7WS but have only been
>> able to see
>> that doing it manually is the only way. This is more trouble
>> than I want to
>> go to.
>>
>>
>> Old Timer Jim/N1NK
>>
>>
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