[Dxbase] State field in ADIF

Tue Mar 23 11:46:26 EDT 2010

Yes, I am working to make v10 as ADIF2 compatible as I can (I am not going
to reinvent the database format but extend it gently for some valuable
additions but this is just part of the ADIF standard).

Neal Campbell
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On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:38 AM, George Harlem W1EBI
<w1ebi at lightband.com>wrote:

>  So this update can be built into DXbase 201x?
>
>
>
> George W1EBI
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Neal Campbell [mailto:nealk3nc at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 23, 2010 11:29 AM
> *To:* LPrice at iaru.org
> *Cc:* George Harlem W1EBI; Jack; DXBase Reflector
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Dxbase] State field in ADIF
>
>
>
> Thats how I see it also (its country-code based).
>
>
> Neal Campbell
> Abroham Neal Software
> www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
> (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER
>
> Amateur Radio: K3NC
> Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/
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>
>
>
>  On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Larry E Price <Price.LE at frontiernet.net>
> wrote:
>
> Looks to me as if ADIF 2 determines the "state" based on the country code
> and seems to cover a large number of countries only a few of which I even
> realized had such info contained (I knew about Oblasts and LU calls but ZP
> was a new one on me).
>
> Larry
> W4RA
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: George Harlem W1EBI [mailto:w1ebi at lightband.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 11:07 AM
> > To: 'Jack'; 'DXBase Reflector'
> > Subject: Re: [Dxbase] State field in ADIF
> >
> > Jack, I don't claim to be at all familiar with ADIF specs, but I
> > initially
> > posted to the N1MM reflector and a couple of group members indicated
> > that
> > the spec for that field is not limited to a US state:
> > =========================================
> >
> > RE: [N1MM] RDXC - Oblast is not a State
> >
> > According to ADIF specification STATE is NOT just "US state":
> >
> > STATE is the code for the contacted station's
> > Primary Administrative Subdivision (e.g. US State, JA Island, VE
> > Province)
> >
> > I think N1MM is working properly.
> >
> > Regards &73!
> > Andrei, de ZL1TM
> > ________________________________
> > > To: N1MMLogger at yahoogroups.com
> > > From: w1ebi at ...
> > > Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:33:35 +0000
> > > Subject: [N1MM] RDXC - Oblast is not a State
> > >
> > > The ADIF exported in 10.3.4 shows each Russian oblast as , which puts
> > lots
> > of
> > MA and MO, etc., in the log as U.S. states. Can't that be changed to as
> > part
> > of
> > the exchange so it does not get saved in DXbase or other archive
> > logging
> > programs as a U.S. state? This did not occur in earlier N1MM releases
> > with
> > RDXC
> > logs.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > George W1EBI
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jack [mailto:lennoxj at bellsouth.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 9:59 AM
> > To: George Harlem W1EBI; 'DXBase Reflector'
> > Subject: Re: [Dxbase] State field in ADIF
> >
> > George,
> >
> > This is interesting to say the least.  The ADIF specification which
> > DXbase
> > 2007 was coded to identifies the "STATE" field in ADIF to be the "US
> > State".
> >
> > If the ADIF specification has changed to now use the "STATE" field for
> > a
> > Russian State, I would suggest there is a problem.  How would any
> > import
> > program know that when the STATE field lists NV, that it is NOT a US
> > State
> > but instead is some other non US entity?
> >
> > If what you indicate is true, I don't have any suggestions for
> > resolution
> > except to say that the ADIF rules need to be examined.  Perhaps there
> > is
> > more to this story that sheds light on things, but on the surface, the
> > ADIF
> > standard is flawed.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jack
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "George Harlem W1EBI" <w1ebi at lightband.com>
> > To: "'DXBase Reflector'" <dxbase at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 11:55 PM
> > Subject: [Dxbase] State field in ADIF
> >
> >
> > > After importing my log from the Russian DX Contest, I noticed that
> > many
> > > Russian oblasts have two-letter abbreviations that are identical to
> > some
> > > US
> > > states (e.g., IN, KS, MA, MO, NV).  The current version of N1MM
> > Logger
> > > correctly includes these in the ADIF field, <STATE:2>, which applies
> > to
> > > the
> > > political entity of the station.  However, DXbase assumes that a
> > "state"
> > > is
> > > only one of the 50 U.S. states, so I had to edit my log by deleting
> > each
> > > instance of an oblast appearing to be Indiana, Kansas, etc.
> > >
> > > I am told that the <STATE> field, per ADIF spec, is not unique to
> > U.S.
> > > states.  Can DXbase-Next be amended so that this field is imported
> > only if
> > > the callsign prefix is K, KH6 or KL7?  Of course, a Russian DXbase
> > user
> > > might then object...
> > >
> > > George W1EBI
> > >
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