[Dxbase] New Win7/32 user problems

Carl J. Denbow n8vz.ars at gmail.com
Wed Dec 30 10:07:18 EST 2009 

Very, very true.  I've learned this from experience myself!

Carl
N8VZ

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On Dec 20, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Neal Campbell <nealk3nc at gmail.com> wrote:

> For those doing an upgrade from Vista to Win7 or (worse) using  
> System Mover
> from Laplink to migrate from XP to Win7, I have sad news: it just  
> doesn't
> work and you will end up with many hours of problems like this  
> before you
> decide to start over, back up everything, format the drive and do a  
> fresh
> install.
>
> I have already had to do to two machines, that I stupidly ignored  
> advice
> like that in this email, and went ahead.
>
> The main problem with the Vista upgrade is that the registry is subtly
> messed up with things pointing to the wrong spot or nowhere. The  
> System
> Mover program from Laplink is so messed up that its a slow form of  
> registry
> deconstruction. Its like merging registries from two different  
> machines into
> one and everything is fouled up.
>
> Note that in both cases I thought that the upgrades were successful  
> for te
> first day or so, then things started not working.
>
> To summarize: If you want  to save yourself a world of pain (I  
> forget what
> movie that came from), backup your system, format your drive and  
> install
> win7, unless you bought the upgrade version. In that case, pop the  
> dvd in
> while you are in your old Os, start the installed and when it  
> reboots and
> asks for the install location, delete the old partition, create a  
> new one,
> let win7's installer format it and then reinstall all your programs  
> after
> win7 is up and running.
>
> I know this sounds like a lot of work (and it is) but blame MS, not  
> me. If
> you have upgraded a Mac system in the p ast 4 years, you never  
> haveto do
> this type of stuff!
>
> 73
>
>
> Neal Campbell
> Abroham Neal Software
> www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
> (540) 242 0911
>
> Amateur Radio: K3NC
> Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/
> DXBase bug reports: email to cases at dxbase.fogbugz.com
> Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Neal Campbell <nealk3nc at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>
>> Was this an "upgrade" installed version of Win7 versus a fresh  
>> install by
>> any chance?
>>
>>
>> Neal Campbell
>> Abroham Neal Software
>> www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
>> (540) 242 0911
>>
>> Amateur Radio: K3NC
>> Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/
>> DXBase bug reports: email to cases at dxbase.fogbugz.com
>> Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Jack <lennoxj at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>>> In DXbase 2007, the code expects that refdata.mdb is located in  
>>> the same
>>> folder as the program executable.  It expects that the refdata.mdb  
>>> has
>>> full
>>> read/write permission.  If the refdata.mdb was copied from a  
>>> backup CD,
>>> there is a chance the file properties are set to readonly which  
>>> would be a
>>> problem and require that the user modify properties for read/ 
>>> write.  It
>>> expects that it is the correct version of refdata.mdb for the  
>>> version of
>>> the
>>> program being run... in other words, the refdata.mdb is not a copy  
>>> from
>>> some
>>> other version of DXbase.
>>>
>>> The only place that the C:\Program Files\Scientific Solutions 
>>> \DXbase 2007
>>> path is coded is in the installation process and it is the default  
>>> path
>>> unless the user changes to something else.  There is nothing in  
>>> DXbase
>>> 2007
>>> itself that has the path hard coded.  I'm betting that Win7 didn't  
>>> like
>>> everything about the installation process or some such thing...  
>>> But in any
>>> case, the solution to the issue originally reported will come from
>>> figuring
>>> out how to set permissions on the DXbase files so that Win7 allows  
>>> them to
>>> be opened without the prompts.. I don't think there is anything in  
>>> DXbase
>>> itself that is going to solve this one.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Peter Dougherty" <w2irt at verizon.net>
>>> To: "'Jack'" <lennoxj at bellsouth.net>; "'Mark O'Brien'"
>>> <mark.k2ax at gmail.com>; <dxbase at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 4:05 PM
>>> Subject: RE: [Dxbase] New Win7/32 user problems
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I'm still working with Mark here on this issue. I checked his old  
>>>> and
>>> new
>>>> computers and my own system, and there's nothing in any of our
>>>> DXBase2007.ini files that references the refdata.mdb file  
>>>> anywhere. This
>>>> is
>>>> the [Dir] section of his new installation under Win7 (mine is  
>>>> simiar):
>>>>
>>>> [Dir]
>>>> CDDRIVE=C
>>>> CDTYPE=1
>>>> PGMPATH=C:\DXbase 2007
>>>> SOUNDPATH=C:\DXbase 2007\Omsounds
>>>> CDPATH=
>>>> DATAPATH=C:\DXbase 2007\K2AX.mdb
>>>> ORDERPATH=C:\DXbase 2007\Default.co
>>>> PQSOPATH=C:\DXbase 2007\Pqsodflt.co
>>>> PQPROMPT=0
>>>> AUTOCD=1
>>>> MGRCDTYPE=0
>>>> CDON=0
>>>> BUPATH=C:\beta2007\
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Peter,
>>>> W2IRT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: dxbase-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>>> [mailto:dxbase-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
>>>> On Behalf Of Jack
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 4:20 PM
>>>> To: Mark O'Brien; dxbase at mailman.qth.net
>>>> Subject: Re: [Dxbase] New Win7/32 user problems
>>>>
>>>> Mark,
>>>>
>>>> You might try the following... no promises... but maybe....
>>>>
>>>> 1.  Make a copy of your dxb2007.ini file from your Windows folder  
>>>> and
>>> save
>>>> it for safe keeping just in case...
>>>>
>>>> 2.  Open the dxb2007.ini file in your Windows folder using  
>>>> notepad and
>>>> look
>>>> for the Directory section of the INI file.  See if the entry for
>>>> refdata.mdb
>>>>
>>>> is showing the wrong path as evidenced by the message you are  
>>>> getting...
>>>> if
>>>> so, change the entry to agree with the same path for  your QSO  
>>>> database
>>>> path.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know exactly what in the world Windows does in Vista/Win7  
>>>> OS's,
>>>> but
>>>> somehow it seems that it clones a copy of the mdb file and runs  
>>>> from
>>> some
>>>> other location other than where DXbase installs it.  Perhaps this  
>>>> will
>>>> help
>>>> but if it screws things up, then just copy the "copy" from step 1  
>>>> above
>>>> back
>>>>
>>>> so you can get to where you started.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mark O'Brien" <mark.k2ax at gmail.com>
>>>> To: <dxbase at mailman.qth.net>
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 1:40 PM
>>>> Subject: [Dxbase] New Win7/32 user problems
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm still having some troubles getting DX Base 2007 to function  
>>>>> under
>>>>> Win7/32-bit. I've got Peter, W2IRT to help a bit, and we got as  
>>>>> far as
>>>>> setting up the app and moving the databases over, but the  
>>>>> problem is
>>>>> launching DX Base now.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have the app installed to C:\DXBase 2007.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can do it one of two ways:
>>>>> 1) Run as administrator and get the UAC prompt every time I go  
>>>>> to run
>>> it.
>>>>> Say yes and it runns as normal.
>>>>> 2) Try to start NOT as administrator and it fails. It seems  
>>>>> something's
>>>>> hard-coded in there to look for files in C:\Program Files 
>>>>> \Scientific
>>>>> Solutions\DX Base 2007.  The error I get when I have it set to
>>>>> non-administrator mode is "Couldn't find file 'C:\Program
>>>>> Files\Scientific
>>>>> Solutions\DXbase 2007\refdata.mdb.'
>>>>>
>>>>> What can I do to keep UAC functional on the computer but not  
>>>>> have DX
>>> Base
>>>>> nag for it on DX Base startup?
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