[Dx4win] Developments

Fri Apr 10 07:58:02 EDT 2020

Hi all

Glad to see some reactions to my original post.

Chris, you are right, but let's not forget that Jim's work is used by 
all logging programs, not just DX4W.

Jim, if you read this, you do a lot for the ham community. You will 
never be thanked enough.

73 all

Paul F6EXV

Le 10/04/2020 à 12:08, Chris Sauvageot a écrit :
> That's not correct - and you know it well! There was a 2. Ham at begin.
>
> And you was DX4WIN dealer in EU - your deep related to DX4WIN. In my
> eyes you always talk more for Paul them for us Ham's
>
> AND we all should not forget: without Jim AD1Cand his great support -
> DX4WIN will not exist !  TNX Jim
>
> 73 Chris
>
> Am 10.04.2020 um 12:00 schrieb ON4AOI:
>> The only programmer from DX4WIN has always beenPaul and no one else
>>
>> To clear that out.
>>
>>
>>
>> Guy
>>
>>
>>
>> From: g3nkc <g3nkc at yahoo.co.uk>
>> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 11:56 AM
>> To: ON4AOI <on4aoi at skynet.be>; 'Luc' <canaryluc at gmail.com>; 
>> w6rll at yahoo.com
>> Cc: 'REFLECTOR dx4win' <dx4win at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Developments
>>
>>
>>
>> Firstly let's hope Paul is safe.
>>
>>
>>
>> But this is not the first time that the question has been asked of 
>> updates, so F6EXV right to ask again.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have been a user / supporter for some 20+ years now, even though 
>> I'm not so active other than contests, or I never have used new data 
>> modes, I follow with interest the comments. I also compare features 
>> that I see in my contest logging software, with that of DX4WIN.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think the last paid software upgrade was a small tinker round the 
>> edges, but what is telling to me is some visual functionality was 
>> lost, namely support of skins. I am pretty sure that the original 
>> team was more than just Paul;  it is possible that he doesn't have 
>> the capability for major upgrades ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Last point, and a surprise in store for me - ZL2IFB made a comparison 
>> spreadsheet a while ago, which is still available for downloading and 
>> contributing if you so desire ( try G4IFB.com , under Logger32, which 
>> was his choice of programme).  So I just downloaded it to my tablet, 
>> and scored DX4WIN.    He scored Logger32 as 75%;  I scored DX4WIN as 
>> 70%,  so maybe there are no great gains to be had ? Needs looking at 
>> later.
>>
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>>
>> 73 Dave, G3NKC
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>> Sent from Samsung tablet.
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>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>>
>> From: ON4AOI <on4aoi at skynet.be <mailto:on4aoi at skynet.be> >
>>
>> Date: 10/04/2020 08:44 (GMT+00:00)
>>
>> To: 'Luc' <canaryluc at gmail.com <mailto:canaryluc at gmail.com> >, 
>> w6rll at yahoo.com <mailto:w6rll at yahoo.com>
>>
>> Cc: 'REFLECTOR dx4win' <dx4win at mailman.qth.net 
>> <mailto:dx4win at mailman.qth.net> >
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Developments
>>
>>
>>
>> Luc and all other,
>> there could be some other reason that we don't hear from Paul with 
>> this covid-19 situation.
>> I have been always in contact with Paul since version 1.02 via phone 
>> and other technology
>> But didn't hear from him anymore since 31-03-2020 so lets hope 
>> nothing else is going on.
>>
>> Maybe I am old school but automatic uploads isn't a top priority 
>> since you can do it
>> with a few click, importing from wsjt(-x) can be done also very easy 
>> off line.
>> My point is are we still radioamateurs or just users that only depend 
>> on a computer?
>> Every qso I make in FT8 or JT65 mode I type in myself and then I am 
>> sure the details
>> Are correct in my log.
>> Why you may ask.
>> I made a lot of rigfiles where only standard modes can be 
>> used/selected not all the new modes
>> That grow every day, infact these all count for Digital mode. If for 
>> example dx4win receive
>> mode = 1 then depending on the rigfile it know that the mode is USB. 
>> If it receive mode = 0
>> then it know it is LSB but if it receive mode = 5 (USB-D or data) 
>> then how it has to know it is FT8
>> and not JT65 with submode JT65b? At that moment the program needs to 
>> act different
>> and depend on a "txt" that comes in and not on a value............
>> In my opinion this is not done in 123 to make it fool prove.
>>
>> My 2 cents
>>
>> Guy ON4AOI - OT7K
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dx4win-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
>> <mailto:dx4win-bounces at mailman.qth.net> 
>> <dx4win-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
>> <mailto:dx4win-bounces at mailman.qth.net> > On Behalf Of Luc
>> Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 10:49 PM
>> To: w6rll at yahoo.com <mailto:w6rll at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: REFLECTOR dx4win <dx4win at mailman.qth.net 
>> <mailto:dx4win at mailman.qth.net> >
>> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Developments
>>
>> For me the DX4WIN is one of the best logbook I have used.
>> I have been using it for many years and it meets my expectations.
>>
>> But I also understand the colleagues who ask for some improvement, 
>> according to the new technologies applied to radio.
>>
>> I think Paul's silence does not help in this debate, perhaps if Paul 
>> indicates the reasons why he does not make these updates, many of us 
>> might understand it, but as I say, his silence does not help.
>>
>> What if I am clear, that for me is one of the best Logbook, I have 
>> used it for many years, and what I have for sure, is that I will 
>> continue using it.
>>
>> Greetings to all.
>>
>> Luciano  EA8AM
>>
>> El jue., 9 abr. 2020 a las 20:22, Joe via DX4WIN 
>> (<dx4win at mailman.qth.net <mailto:dx4win at mailman.qth.net> >)
>> escribió:
>>
>>>   Hi Paul,
>>>
>>> After reading all the latest comments about DX4WIN I had to check my
>>> log to see how long I have been using DX4WIN here. I see that my first
>>> log entry was on April 21 1989. I still use DX4WIN (Latest Version)
>>> almost every day, and it does everything that I require.
>>> Have a great day.
>>>
>>> Joe W6RLL
>>>       On Thursday, April 9, 2020, 11:08:07 AM MST,
>>> <rich_k7zv at gphilltop.com <mailto:rich_k7zv at gphilltop.com> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   Hi Paul,
>>>
>>> If this was the only thing supporting Paul KK4HD then I would agree
>>> with you. But DX4WIN I am thinking is not how he feeds his family and
>>> pay his bills. The program does all I need it to do. I can do all you
>>> are asking with a few extra key clicks with my mouse! You may think it
>>> is trivial to add instant uploads to all the different services like
>>> eQSL and LoTW etc to be added to DX4WIN but I am sure it is not. In
>>> any case I think you should back off and and quit whining. There free
>>> programs that do what you want I believe.
>>>
>>> Rich K7ZV
>>>
>>> On 2020-04-09 10:35 am, Paul F6EXV wrote:
>>>> Hi all
>>>> So we are not getting any info...
>>>> Real bad..... Really real bad, _customers_ are not considered as
>>>> they should...
>>>> 73
>>>> Paul F6EXV
>>>>
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