[Dx4win] Developments
ON4AOI
on4aoi at skynet.be
Fri Apr 10 06:00:19 EDT 2020
The only programmer from DX4WIN has always beenPaul and no one else
To clear that out.
Guy
From: g3nkc <g3nkc at yahoo.co.uk>
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 11:56 AM
To: ON4AOI <on4aoi at skynet.be>; 'Luc' <canaryluc at gmail.com>; w6rll at yahoo.com
Cc: 'REFLECTOR dx4win' <dx4win at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Developments
Firstly let's hope Paul is safe.
But this is not the first time that the question has been asked of updates, so F6EXV right to ask again.
I have been a user / supporter for some 20+ years now, even though I'm not so active other than contests, or I never have used new data modes, I follow with interest the comments. I also compare features that I see in my contest logging software, with that of DX4WIN.
I think the last paid software upgrade was a small tinker round the edges, but what is telling to me is some visual functionality was lost, namely support of skins. I am pretty sure that the original team was more than just Paul; it is possible that he doesn't have the capability for major upgrades ?
Last point, and a surprise in store for me - ZL2IFB made a comparison spreadsheet a while ago, which is still available for downloading and contributing if you so desire ( try G4IFB.com , under Logger32, which was his choice of programme). So I just downloaded it to my tablet, and scored DX4WIN. He scored Logger32 as 75%; I scored DX4WIN as 70%, so maybe there are no great gains to be had ? Needs looking at later.
73 Dave, G3NKC
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From: ON4AOI <on4aoi at skynet.be <mailto:on4aoi at skynet.be> >
Date: 10/04/2020 08:44 (GMT+00:00)
To: 'Luc' <canaryluc at gmail.com <mailto:canaryluc at gmail.com> >, w6rll at yahoo.com <mailto:w6rll at yahoo.com>
Cc: 'REFLECTOR dx4win' <dx4win at mailman.qth.net <mailto:dx4win at mailman.qth.net> >
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Developments
Luc and all other,
there could be some other reason that we don't hear from Paul with this covid-19 situation.
I have been always in contact with Paul since version 1.02 via phone and other technology
But didn't hear from him anymore since 31-03-2020 so lets hope nothing else is going on.
Maybe I am old school but automatic uploads isn't a top priority since you can do it
with a few click, importing from wsjt(-x) can be done also very easy off line.
My point is are we still radioamateurs or just users that only depend on a computer?
Every qso I make in FT8 or JT65 mode I type in myself and then I am sure the details
Are correct in my log.
Why you may ask.
I made a lot of rigfiles where only standard modes can be used/selected not all the new modes
That grow every day, infact these all count for Digital mode. If for example dx4win receive
mode = 1 then depending on the rigfile it know that the mode is USB. If it receive mode = 0
then it know it is LSB but if it receive mode = 5 (USB-D or data) then how it has to know it is FT8
and not JT65 with submode JT65b? At that moment the program needs to act different
and depend on a "txt" that comes in and not on a value............
In my opinion this is not done in 123 to make it fool prove.
My 2 cents
Guy ON4AOI - OT7K
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Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Developments
For me the DX4WIN is one of the best logbook I have used.
I have been using it for many years and it meets my expectations.
But I also understand the colleagues who ask for some improvement, according to the new technologies applied to radio.
I think Paul's silence does not help in this debate, perhaps if Paul indicates the reasons why he does not make these updates, many of us might understand it, but as I say, his silence does not help.
What if I am clear, that for me is one of the best Logbook, I have used it for many years, and what I have for sure, is that I will continue using it.
Greetings to all.
Luciano EA8AM
El jue., 9 abr. 2020 a las 20:22, Joe via DX4WIN (<dx4win at mailman.qth.net <mailto:dx4win at mailman.qth.net> >)
escribió:
> Hi Paul,
>
> After reading all the latest comments about DX4WIN I had to check my
> log to see how long I have been using DX4WIN here. I see that my first
> log entry was on April 21 1989. I still use DX4WIN (Latest Version)
> almost every day, and it does everything that I require.
> Have a great day.
>
> Joe W6RLL
> On Thursday, April 9, 2020, 11:08:07 AM MST,
> <rich_k7zv at gphilltop.com <mailto:rich_k7zv at gphilltop.com> >
> wrote:
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> If this was the only thing supporting Paul KK4HD then I would agree
> with you. But DX4WIN I am thinking is not how he feeds his family and
> pay his bills. The program does all I need it to do. I can do all you
> are asking with a few extra key clicks with my mouse! You may think it
> is trivial to add instant uploads to all the different services like
> eQSL and LoTW etc to be added to DX4WIN but I am sure it is not. In
> any case I think you should back off and and quit whining. There free
> programs that do what you want I believe.
>
> Rich K7ZV
>
> On 2020-04-09 10:35 am, Paul F6EXV wrote:
> > Hi all
> > So we are not getting any info...
> > Real bad..... Really real bad, _customers_ are not considered as
> > they should...
> > 73
> > Paul F6EXV
> >
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