[Dx4win] Z6

Tue Jan 23 12:31:40 EST 2018

Version 9.xx has been updated with KOSOVO also
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Guy ON4AOI

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From: dx4win-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 3:57 PM
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Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Z6

Since the ARRL Board of Directors is reported to have instructed the interim CEO that inclusion of Kosovo was to be retroactive, the rules would have to indicate the start date of a Political Entity would be the qualifying event not the date of the rules change.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV

On 1/23/2018 9:49 AM, Paul F6EXV wrote:
> By the time Kosovo declared independance, or was added to the US list 
> of independant states, it did not meet the criteria. It only meets the 
> criteria that was just added, so it is a discovery entity...
> 
> Le 23/01/2018 à 15:39, Joe Subich, W4TV a écrit :
>>
>> Paul,
>>
>> Kosovo would be a *Political Entity* not a Geographic entity.  The 
>> precedents would be Palestine and/or the Republic of South Sudan.
>> "Discovery Date" is not applicable to Political entities.  The 
>> appropriate date is the "Qualifying Event" - the date on which the 
>> political entity meets the qualification (e.g., Membership in the UN 
>> or addition to one of the alternate "lists").
>>
>> 73,
>>
>>    ... Joe, W4TV
>>
>>
>> On 1/23/2018 9:23 AM, Paul F6EXV wrote:
>>> DXCC Criteria quote
>>>
>>> *Discovery Entity:*An Entity "Discovered" after the listing is 
>>> complete. This applies only to Geographic Entities, and may occur 
>>> after a future rule change, or after an Event has changed its status.
>>>
>>> *Discovery Date:*Date of the rule change or Event which prompts 
>>> addition of the Entity. This is the Start Date for a Discovery Entity.
>>> UNQUOTE
>>>
>>> Kosovo would be a discovery entity, therefore starting date should 
>>> be the "discovery date", in this case the rule change.
>>> If they count it retroactively, that means they do not understand 
>>> their own criteria (as they id for KH4 and KH7K recently... IMHO
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Paul F6EXV
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 23/01/2018 à 15:16, Joe Subich, W4TV a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> > So I presume its ok this time but starting from this week only 
>>>> > not b4
>>>>
>>>> My internal source says, "immediately and *retroactive*". The 
>>>> interim CEO is charged with drafting the new rules and determining 
>>>> the proper "effective date".  Most likely dates are 17 Feb 2008 
>>>> (Declaration of
>>>> Independence) or 18 February 2008 (when the US added Kosovo to the 
>>>> Department of State list of Independent States of the World:
>>>> <https://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/4250.htm>).
>>>>
>>>> My suspicion is that the DXCC rules change will be to add 
>>>> "Independent States of the World" as an alternate to to UN 
>>>> Membership in (a) under Political Entities - as "Dependencies and 
>>>> Areas of Special Sovereignty" is an alternative to the list of 
>>>> "Non-Self-Governing Territories" in (c).
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>>    ... Joe, W4TV
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/23/2018 9:01 AM, ON4AOI wrote:
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> Just heard K5FUV work them and comments from oh2bh were Bill many 
>>>>> tnx for the help and support on this one So I presume its ok this 
>>>>> time but starting from this week only not b4
>>>>>
>>>>> Guy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: dx4win-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
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>>>>> On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 2:39 PM
>>>>> To: Roger D Johnson
>>>>> Cc: DX4Win Reflector
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Z6
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 5:03 AM, Roger D Johnson 
>>>>> <n1rj at roadrunner.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> DX4Win ver 9 won't save Z6 contacts and country database not 
>>>>>> updateable.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is NOT true.  Just log them.  I have several in the log. 
>>>>> Prefix field
>>>>> is blank, but you can enter the QSOs and save the log.  Once I 
>>>>> release a new country file, they will automatically be credited 
>>>>> with the correct DXCC prefix.
>>>>>
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