[Dx4win] Future of DX4WIN - Rig Files

RWMaylott at aol.com RWMaylott at aol.com
Wed Oct 21 18:06:46 EDT 2015


I have had an annoying rig file problem since I upgraded by Icom 756 Pro  
III to an IC-7600.
 
Double clicking on a spot moves the correct frequency and mode to the  
logging screen, but the radio itself usually does not change, and then the  
logging screen frequency reverts to the old radio frequency after a couple of  
seconds.  However, if there is a QSX frequency posted, the radio goes to  
that frequency immediately and the mode always changes.  If you click  enough 
times, usually the radio will finally change to the spotted  frequency.  
 
I don't have a similar problem with either N1MM or Writelog,, and didn't  
have it with the Pro III.  Probably an easy fix but I don't have a clue as  
to how to do it.
 
73, Dick, W2YE
 
 
In a message dated 10/20/2015 10:06:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
danki6x at socal.rr.com writes:

Check  out FILE - DATABASES - RADIOS

I have also never edited any rig files  but if you have the radio and can 
choose a similar radio you might be able to  make the edits.  Also you can 
figure out the ".rig" file itself and edit  in Notepad.

/Dan KI6X

-----Original Message-----
From: DX4WIN  [mailto:dx4win-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kostas 
SV1DPI
Sent:  Monday, October 19, 2015 9:19 PM
To: dx4win at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re:  [Dx4win] Future of DX4WIN

Even I am experienced user of dx4win, I don't  know how to make a radio 
file. Is there any tutorial under help or anywhere  else to read? I would like 
to learn to make (or to convert) these  files...

73 Kostas SV1DPI

On 19/10/2015 8:51 μμ, ON4AOI  wrote:
> ¨¨As for the rig development "tools" which are part of DX4WIN,  they 
> are probably somewhere above EXPERT user  knowledge.¨¨
>
> Lou,
> I don´t agree with that its easy  done with your own rig and your 
computer.
> I made several rigfiles  (different brands) over the years and they all 
> work perfect  here.
>
> Some reported that a few are not working on their  computer.
>
> My 2cents comments
>
> LOU this is one  of the problems that no one can predict.
> Why you may ask,
> Real  RS232 ports are rare these days, Ad-ON comport cards are still on 
> the  market but expensive now.
> So everyone gets USB to Serial converters  for less than 10-15$.
> 90% of these is crap for perfect serial  communications and the fact 
> that USB devices can´t be controlled like  real rs232 ports. Some rigs 
> have only USB now what makes it even  worse to check.
>
> One of my HF systems has 28 serials in  it.
> 6 real comports
> 10 virtual comports (Eltima  drivers)
> 8 RS232 via TCPIP ports
> 4 USB to serial with  authentic FTDI drivers
>
> To get this working like it should it  took many retries before I 
> figured out in what order to  Install.
> All looked ok after the first time also, but it didn´t work  like it 
> should.
>
> How many do remove not used drivers  anymore ?
>
> Guy  ON4AOI-OT7K
>
>
>
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk  bericht-----
> Van: DX4WIN [mailto:dx4win-bounces at mailman.qth.net]  Namens Lou 
> Dietrich
> Verzonden: maandag 19 oktober 2015  18:30
> Aan: dx4win at mailman.qth.net
> Onderwerp: Re: [Dx4win]  Future of DX4WIN
>
> Paul,
>
> I don't think anyone  expects you to have every rig that is out 
> there!....however if you  had a rapport with the user group, I am sure 
> people would volunteer  to assist. DXLabs, N1MM+ , Logger32 and others 
> don't seem to have any  problem working with their user group to 
> develop new rig files and  features.
>
> If DX4WIN would attempt stay current with the  requests of the user 
> group (rig files and features), you would have a  steady revenue stream 
> but to allow DX4WIN to stagnate does little but  encourage users to move 
on.
>
> As for the rig development "tools"  which are part of DX4WIN, they are 
> probably somewhere above EXPERT  user knowledge.
>
> If it weren't for AD1C's support, DX4WIN would  be as useful as DOS 3.1!
>
> IMHO
>
>  73
>
> Lou N2TU
>
>
>
> On 10/18/2015 9:55  PM, Paul van der Eijk wrote:
>> Hi John,
>>
>> The  tools to develop a new rig file are all part of DX4WIN; I have no 
>>  additional tools to do that.
>>
>> Over the years, a number  of users have created or helped develop new 
>> rig files. The  important difference is having access to the radio  
itself.
>>
>> --Paul,  KK4HD
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 6:45 PM,  John Pritt <radiotech at nycap.rr.com>
> wrote:
>>> I  certainly agree with you Bob.  I put rig control right up there  
>>> with working with new OSs.  I apologize if I was not  completely up 
>>> to speed with why there are complaints with  DX4WIN.  I wasn't aware 
>>> that Paul is not updating for  new rigs.  I'm still using a Ten Tec 
Omni  6!
>>>
>>> John  (N1JP)
>>> -----  Original Message ----- From: "ROBERT DEGRIPPO"
>>>  <kr4da at bellsouth.net>
>>> To:  <dx4win at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015  6:11 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Future of  DX4WIN
>>>
>>>
>>> I too love  DX4WIN......but if you do not have a RIG file that talks 
>>>  to
>>>> your radio
>>>> what do you do. I assure  you NO RIG file and the enjoyment of 
>>>> working DX and  logging in real time is a real turn off.
>>>> So go out and buy  a NON supported new rig and see how much you then 
>>>> enjoy  your logging program.
>>>> One of the huge incentives to buy  was RIG control.
>>>> Think about not being able  to use  your rig with DX4WIN then think 
>>>> about how you would  feel.
>>>>
>>>> I bought a RIG control program  from N4PY that allows it to 
>>>> communicate with dx4win and  fldigi. The N4PY program is amazing. 
>>>> Try the
>  demo.
>>>> Beautiful radio interface.
>>>> And I  paid for it.
>>>>
>>>> And again all I am saying  is please give us a current statement of 
>>>>  intentions.
>>>> I bought the program back in 2.0 have had  other rigs and RIG files 
>>>> were added and supported. Really  a comment from Paul is not too 
>>>> much to ask.  IMHO.
>>>>
>>>> And don't give me the "well just  move on crap". Paul should be the 
>>>> one to tell me this at  least. No one else.
>>>>
>>>>  Bob
>>>> Sent from my  iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 5:54 PM, John  Pritt <radiotech at nycap.rr.com> 
wrote:
>>>>> Just to  add my two cents, I love this program.  It does everything  
>>>>> that I want it to do.  For my part I hope that  it never goes away 
>>>>> because I don't need the  excitement of learning new software to 
>>>>> keep my  interest in amateur radio.  I've been down the road of  
>>>>> asking how this work or how that works, how do I do  this or how do 
>>>>> I do that.  For me that is just  frustrating.  I don't criticize 
>>>>> those that want  new digital modes or just want to play with 
>>>>> something  new but for my money as long as it loads with the new 
>>>>>  OSs
> from Microsoft I'm a happy customer.  Just  saying...
>>>>> John
>>>>>  N1JP
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  ----- Original Message ----- From:  <wosborne44 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To:  <DX4WIN at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October  18, 2015 12:51 PM
>>>>> Subject: [Dx4win] Future of  DX4WIN
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  HI All,
>>>>>> Maybe, if Paul is not in position to  update the program, we on 
>>>>>> this list could buy  access to the source code and arrange to move 
>>>>>> it  forward as a not for profit operation. The details could be  
>>>>>> tricky to work out but it seems feasible if Paul  is interested, 
>>>>>> and if we can make it good enough  to again attract new users who 
>>>>>> would pay to join  this project. I have something like N1MM but 
>>>>>> with  a
> paid programer(s) involved.
>>>>>>  Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> William  Osborne--K5ZQ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  270-205-9565
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Wosborne44 at gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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