[Dx4win] Future of DX4WIN

ON4AOI on4aoi at skynet.be
Mon Oct 19 13:51:07 EDT 2015 

¨¨As for the rig development "tools" which are part of DX4WIN, they are
probably somewhere above EXPERT user knowledge.¨¨

Lou,
I don´t agree with that its easy done with your own rig and your computer.
I made several rigfiles (different brands) over the years and they all work
perfect here.

Some reported that a few are not working on their computer.

My 2cents comments

LOU this is one of the problems that no one can predict.
Why you may ask,
Real RS232 ports are rare these days, Ad-ON comport cards are still on the
market but expensive now.
So everyone gets USB to Serial converters for less than 10-15$.
90% of these is crap for perfect serial communications and the fact that USB
devices can´t be controlled
like real rs232 ports. Some rigs have only USB now what makes it even worse
to check.

One of my HF systems has 28 serials in it.
6 real comports
10 virtual comports (Eltima drivers) 
8 RS232 via TCPIP ports
4 USB to serial with authentic FTDI drivers 

To get this working like it should it took many
retries before I figured out in what order to Install.
All looked ok after the first time also, 
but it didn´t work like it should.

How many do remove not used drivers anymore ? 

Guy ON4AOI-OT7K        




-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: DX4WIN [mailto:dx4win-bounces at mailman.qth.net] Namens Lou Dietrich
Verzonden: maandag 19 oktober 2015 18:30
Aan: dx4win at mailman.qth.net
Onderwerp: Re: [Dx4win] Future of DX4WIN

Paul,

I don't think anyone expects you to have every rig that is out
there!....however if you had a rapport with the user group, I am sure people
would volunteer to assist. DXLabs, N1MM+ , Logger32 and others don't seem to
have any problem working with their user group to develop new rig files and
features.

If DX4WIN would attempt stay current with the requests of the user group
(rig files and features), you would have a steady revenue stream but to
allow DX4WIN to stagnate does little but encourage users to move on.

As for the rig development "tools" which are part of DX4WIN, they are
probably somewhere above EXPERT user knowledge.

If it weren't for AD1C's support, DX4WIN would be as useful as DOS 3.1!

IMHO

73

Lou N2TU



On 10/18/2015 9:55 PM, Paul van der Eijk wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> The tools to develop a new rig file are all part of DX4WIN; I have no 
> additional tools to do that.
>
> Over the years, a number of users have created or helped develop new 
> rig files. The important difference is having access to the radio itself.
>
> --Paul, KK4HD
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 6:45 PM, John Pritt <radiotech at nycap.rr.com>
wrote:
>
>> I certainly agree with you Bob.  I put rig control right up there 
>> with working with new OSs.  I apologize if I was not completely up to 
>> speed with why there are complaints with DX4WIN.  I wasn't aware that 
>> Paul is not updating for new rigs.  I'm still using a Ten Tec Omni 6!
>>
>> John  (N1JP)
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "ROBERT DEGRIPPO" 
>> <kr4da at bellsouth.net>
>> To: <dx4win at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 6:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Future of DX4WIN
>>
>>
>> I too love DX4WIN......but if you do not have a RIG file that talks 
>> to
>>> your radio
>>> what do you do. I assure you NO RIG file and the enjoyment of 
>>> working DX and logging in real time is a real turn off.
>>> So go out and buy a NON supported new rig and see how much you then 
>>> enjoy your logging program.
>>> One of the huge incentives to buy was RIG control.
>>> Think about not being able  to use your rig with DX4WIN then think 
>>> about how you would feel.
>>>
>>> I bought a RIG control program from N4PY that allows it to 
>>> communicate with dx4win and fldigi. The N4PY program is amazing. Try the
demo.
>>> Beautiful radio interface.
>>> And I paid for it.
>>>
>>> And again all I am saying is please give us a current statement of 
>>> intentions.
>>> I bought the program back in 2.0 have had other rigs and RIG files 
>>> were added and supported. Really a comment from Paul is not too much 
>>> to ask. IMHO.
>>>
>>> And don't give me the "well just move on crap". Paul should be the 
>>> one to tell me this at least. No one else.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 5:54 PM, John Pritt <radiotech at nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> Just to add my two cents, I love this program.  It does everything 
>>>> that I want it to do.  For my part I hope that it never goes away 
>>>> because I don't need the excitement of learning new software to 
>>>> keep my interest in amateur radio.  I've been down the road of 
>>>> asking how this work or how that works, how do I do this or how do 
>>>> I do that.  For me that is just frustrating.  I don't criticize 
>>>> those that want new digital modes or just want to play with 
>>>> something new but for my money as long as it loads with the new OSs
from Microsoft I'm a happy customer.  Just saying...
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>> N1JP
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <wosborne44 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: <DX4WIN at mailman.qth.net>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 12:51 PM
>>>> Subject: [Dx4win] Future of DX4WIN
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> HI All,
>>>>> Maybe, if Paul is not in position to update the program, we on 
>>>>> this list could buy access to the source code and arrange to move 
>>>>> it forward as a not for profit operation. The details could be 
>>>>> tricky to work out but it seems feasible if Paul is interested, 
>>>>> and if we can make it good enough to again attract new users who 
>>>>> would pay to join this project. I have something like N1MM but with a
paid programer(s) involved.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> William Osborne--K5ZQ
>>>>>
>>>>> 270-205-9565
>>>>>
>>>>> Wosborne44 at gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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