[Dx4win] IC735 remote control

Mel ve2dc at videotron.ca
Sun Jul 17 19:32:37 EDT 2011


re 1. That's interesting. The 735 and some Ten Tecs use the Icom 
protocol but the frequency string is one byte shorter. I used the 735 
years ago without issue so I wouldn't have suspected the rig file. Good 
catch!

2. This doesn't make any sense. Any polling rate should work providing 
it is not too short for the radio to respond. with 5000ms it will update 
every 5 seconds. You do need retries, with older Icoms they will ignore 
polling requests if they are busy, for example spinning the dial. I 
typically use 4 and timeouts are rare... but any number should work. 
With a number too low the rig might time out occasionally.Newer rigs can 
time out too but you almost have to go out of your way to trigger a 
timeout because of the faster processors. It has happened with my 7700 
doing some major knob spinning (never think to use the keypad ;-) In any 
case, you should not have to play with these values to make it work. 
I've used from 500ms to 2 seconds without trouble. I never tried faster 
than 1 second with my old 751A.

3. It is not actually necessary to change this value in the rig file, 
all it does is change the "default" speed. You can override in preferences.

I believe CI-V should be OFF for reliable performance with DX4Win. With 
older rigs (probably including the 735) leaving this on can cause data 
collisions and corrupt data which results in erroneous frequencies being 
reported. This can be dangerous if using amps or tuners relying on C-IV 
for frequency information.

I should mention that this has not happened to me recently... I no 
longer have my 781 which was the last radio with which I experienced 
this problem. My IC910H did not have this issue which is why I suspect 
the newer radios are "better" at detecting collisions.

Can someone confirm if this data collision problem still happens with 
older Icoms with V8.05? I seem to remember it did in 8.01 causing the 
bandmap to shift erratically, but Paul did some tweaking in subsequent 
versions.


On 2011-07-17 17:37, Radivoj Kar, F6GNZ wrote:
> Hi,
>
> With a precious help of Jim Hargrave , W5IFP, the problem was solved!
>
> 1. Original IC735.rig files in dx4win  versions 8.04 and 8.05 are WRONG! Rig timeouts occur regularly with these versions, whatever polling time and retries numbers are chosen. Good file was found by Jim in version 8.01 and maybe was also good in earlier dx4win versions.
>
> 2. With the good dx4win ver 8.01 rig file, to
> obtain log window's band/mode to reflect changes on the rig selections, a
> lot of combinations of polling times/retries were tried. In some of
> them, like with default polling time of 5000ms, it was required to open
> the radio frequency setup window and click on "read" to make logging
> window reflect the changes. The combination that works automatically and FB, without having to open the frequency setup window, , is 350ms and 3 retries (set in Radio Preferences). Some other close to these numbers may work also, but this one works all the time in my case)
>
> 3. Speed in ic735.rig  file and preferences was changed from 1200 bps to
> 9600 bps and JU22 in radio was also set to 9600 bps (left position
> contacts). Also, "ci-v transceive" jumper in radio ( the last contacts on the
> right) was left ON.
>
> RMX: transceiver band/frequency will not be reflected correctly in logging window if radio is tuned to a frequency out of HAM band limits, which is OK.
>
>
> Now, I am haaaaappy again...... :)
>
> 73,
> Radi F6GNZ
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