[Dx4win] Group question
Bud Semon N7CW
n7cw at cableone.net
Wed Jun 23 18:52:58 EDT 2010
John,
If you want the group you added (by changing the group number in Preferences) to show up in Edit Group Names, you must add it, by doing Filter, Group Names, Add. You can change the name at this point also, but note that after you change the name, you must click on Change. Once you have done that, you can add that group to a Selection by going to the selection you want to add it to, finding the new group number, double-clicking on the new group number (this will add an "x" to the left of the group number) and then clicking Update.
In my opinion, the use of Selections, in addition to the group numbering, is an extremely powerful tool within DX4Win, allowing you to separate QSOs from various locations easily. Personally, I think Arne's log groupings would be accomplished much better by using Selections - this would allow further separation (e.g. for contests) within each Selection. But it is all personal preference...
73, Bud N7CW
-----Original Message-----
From: dx4win-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of N7KA at comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:17 PM
To: John Shaw
Cc: dx4win at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Group question
John
I have GROUPS 0, 1, 2, and 3defined.
If I search for any of the 4 groups by group number I get only those QSOs for that group. When I total the number of QSOs I selected in FILTER (group) of the 4 groups I get the total number of QSOs in my log. That tells me the filter function by groups is working properly.
Not sure what you mean by illogical fashion. I defined my needs for groups and the log does sort (filter) by those "needs", in otherwords, "my groups".
I have my entire log for N7KA going back to June 1978 is entered into DX4WIN. Group 0 identiined as all QSOs prior to 01 JAN1983 (the date that VUCC started). I lived in Tucson, AZ in 01 JAN 1983 so have defined Group 1 by the 6 digit grid square I was living and operating from. Group 2 is defined by my current 6 digit grid square beginning 24 FEB, 1985. Group 3 is defined as the grid square I operated portable on 6M Sunday 20 June 2010. They all sort properly when I select FILTER and enter the group number.
At start-up my correct group 2 is displayed in the QSO WINDOW GROUP box. (that is what I have set as default) If I change and SAVE the group number in the FILE|PREFERENCES|QSO group box, this becomes the group number displayed in the QSO WINDOW upon starting the program. You MUST do QSO|Real-time after the program is booted to set the program to begin logging for the day, otherwise you get data from the last QSO entered in your log. BTW all 4 of my groups do come up at start if I have defined a group as the default.
l also keep my group number and description written on paper and stored in my manual as backup; group number description, date range, and any other info I determine is relevant.
73 de Arne N7KA
----- "John Shaw" <jnshaw at internet.co.nz> wrote:
> Using version 8.04.
> When I set the group to "0" in the preferences and then go to real time
> entry the group is "0" so I cant reproduce your result for that one.
> If I set the group in preferences to a group not previously set up and go to
> real time entry it does come up as the group set and will log it as such.
> As a consequence after that if I go to "Filter|Edit Group Names" the new
> group generated this way does not show up in the list and am not being able
> to use Filter|Select to find that QSO, it can be searched for by using F8.
> Since F8 search can be used it can be set to another group using
> QSO|Multiple QSO Operations.
> So other than being able to do something in an illogical fashion it would
> seem to be function ok. If I want to have a new group of QSO's I have
> always generated the new group by using the Filter|Edit Group Names function
> before logging or importing a QSO to that group in my log.
> As a aside note I don't log any QSO's to group "0", start from group 1 then
> you will be able to do a group filter search for any and or all QSO's in the
> log. "0" is a group of everything, including itself, a group of all groups
> if you like.
> 73 John ZL1BYZ.
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