[Dx4win] New Application Note: DXCC Award Tracking

Tue Jan 13 07:34:49 EST 2009

Sorry for the bother Mike, however perhaps you (or someone else) will know
the answer to the following:

If I look at the DXCC summary (excluding deleted) I have 1311 entities/
cards for submission. If I then open the SUBMISSION it only shows 391
stations listed. I have tried clearing the SUBMITTED award flags and then
rehitting SUBMISSION with the same result. I just cannot see how those 391
cards will fill in all the gaps.

73

Andy G3SVD

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From: Mike Rhodes [mailto:w8dn at roadrunner.com] 
Sent: 13 January 2009 11:04
To: Andy Hewitt
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] New Application Note: DXCC Award Tracking

Andy,
  Not sure why the 30 Q listing. However, you are correct that you will get
whatever credits are available from the 1300 cards. One more thing to note
is that it is actually the contacts rather than the cards that are counted.
That is, if you send in 100 cards but half of them have two confirmations on
them, you will end up with 150 credits rather than 100 UNLESS you tag the
multi-Q cards with an indication of which Q to count. With a large
submission that can be a bit of a surprise when the bill comes in!
  Good luck and congrats on all the awards. Oh yeah, I think the plaques are
overpriced but they sure do look nice on the wall.

Mike / W8DN

Andy Hewitt wrote: 

Jim and Mike,

No I don't want to break it down at all. I have 216 confirmations on LOTW so
really, I think, I only need to worry about the 108 that are not confirmed
on LOTW but for which I have cards, plus all the various card confirmations
I have for the individual bands. I can get the cards field checked in the UK
at one of the conventions/rallies so I am not risking the cards nor paying
postage. I will then only have to pay for the certificates plus whatever the
field checkers charge over here. 

This is what comes of only becoming interested in getting wall paper (the
only one that matters) late in life.

I have found another oddity:- in DX4Win if I go into REPORTS-DXCC-FIVE BAND
SUBMISSION I get a list of about 30 stations that I have worked on all five
bands. Not the list of stations that make up 100 entities for each band. I
don't even know if these 30 are all that I have worked on five bands or not
but that is what DX4W brings up.

I assume that if I get 1300 cards checked against band and mode when they
are entered into the system it will all come out in the wash. Or, is that
too simple?
73
Andy G3SVD

-----Original Message-----
From: dx4win-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of Mike Rhodes
Sent: 13 January 2009 00:17
To: DX4WIN
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] New Application Note: DXCC Award Tracking

Jim,
  I suspect that is exactly what Andy wants to do, submit separately. 
With 1300 cards to be checked, that figures up to something like $12 for 
the first 120 Qs and $177 for the next 1180. Then there will be an 
additional $12 for each certificate so, assuming 5BDXCC, that is another 
$60 for each band plus another $12 for the 5BDXCC cert. That brings him 
to about $261, not counting Registered Mail round trip for about 9 
pounds of cards! I don't think I would be willing to trust the PO with 
nearly every QSL I owned, all in one place at one time!
  Bu the ARRL still has Andy in a tough (expensive) spot because, unless 
he wants to spread this job out over several years, he is still going to 
have to either take the 15 cents/card hit for some oversized shipments 
or pay the extra $10 per submission to submit more than once per year!
  Oh yeah, don't forget the extra $12 per for the CW, SSB, and RTTY DXCC 
certs...
  Andy, my suggestion is, once you decide how big a hit you want to take 
at a time, is to export the submissions to EXCEL and sort them into 
whatever bitesize chunks you desire. Just make sure your export file 
includes the various submission categories.

Mike / W8DN

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Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:

Hi Andy,

As long as the awards you care about are enabled in your DXCC
preferences (there are check boxes for the bands and modes, as well as
the award types (Band, Mode, Mixed), and those bands are also enabled
in your Station preferences, Reports -> DXCC -> Submission will cause
confirmations for *all* relevant awards to be submitted at the same
time.  You do not have to do them separately.

Does that make sense?

- Jim

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:48 AM, Andy Hewitt
 <mailto:andyphewitt at btopenworld.com> <andyphewitt at btopenworld.com> wrote:

Jim,
As I said in my direct email many thanks for producing this application
note. One thing that I do not seem to be able to get right is the
"SUBMISSION". As I have never submitted an application for DXCC using

cards

I have something like 1300 cards to be checked if I apply for separate

mode

and band awards as well as the mixed mode. As I seem to have ticks in all
the right boxes I was expecting the submission to contain all the cards

to

the total shown in the summary. However if I clear all the flags I can

get a

Mixed mode submission for 324 entities, then I clear the flags again and

I

get 175 entities for 6m. Do I have to keep doing this for each band and
mode?

Many 73
Andy G3SVD

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