[Dx4win] Ver 8.01 issues

Tonno Vahk tonno.vahk at mail.ee
Sun Aug 9 13:34:13 EDT 2009


Hi Guy,

Thank you for bringing out the steps but I hate to repeat myself. All this
is clear and simple but it does not work because the information gets lost
from the log through export-import and thus it can't be used.

I lose all the defined Groups and Selections. God knows what else (maybe SWL
records, etc, etc).

Thus this export-import is only useful for one thing as I see so far -
checking the CTY file errors. That's it.

I would love to get all this to Textpad and have fun with it but I cannot do
anything useful with the results I get from Textpad. 

Waiting thus to have Paul fix this - I would REALLY love to have the option
of SPLIT AT THE FIRST SPACE like described my some others. And option of
choosing the delimiter. I have this problem that due to some earlier
import/export I have already doubled the Notes of the Call so I hope that
once this Split function is introduced there is also possibility to
overwrite anything on the QTH field by doing it. Then I can first split off
the double part with / delimiter and then split the remainder with first
space and whatever goes to the QTH field will overwrite the previous values.
That is my dream on that subject:)

Another dream I have is to have functional Remove Duplicate QSLs button
which is completely messed up now and deletes all labels when any QSO is
confirmed in this band/mode combination. It should absolutely ignore the
CONFIRMED flag and only look at the QSL sent and LABEL fields. I simply
can't understand why it has anything to do with Confirmed flag and why this
has been this way for many years and not fixed. Probably there is a reason.

And one question: Is there any way to set default Report view? It always
defaults to Logbook which is not what I like to use, thus one always has to
change when starting the program. Quite inconvenient. Maybe the solution is
to just edit Logbook report?

73
Tonno
ES5TV

-----Original Message-----
From: dx4win-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of ON4AOI
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 1:33 PM
To: sm0mpv at stockholm.bostream.se
Cc: dx4win at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Ver 8.01 issues

Mel,

Yep step by step would be a good start and always save with new name in case
Something goes wrong you can always go back one step.   
With TEXTPAD you can select a part of the text where the changes
Should be made only, not 100% bullet proof due different length but you can
first
Make instead of a space another delimiter afterwards you rearrange the txt
to make that
Delimiter be recognized like a tab , then it will be much easier to search
and replace
I am used to work with textpad for many years now and am very familiar with
the possibilities
Build it, you can even create your own macro´s in it 

Guy ON4AOI

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: sm0mpv at stockholm.bostream.se [mailto:sm0mpv at stockholm.bostream.se]
> Verzonden: zondag 9 augustus 2009 11:31
> Aan: ON4AOI; 'Tonno Vahk'
> CC: dx4win at mailman.qth.net
> Onderwerp: Re: [Dx4win] Ver 8.01 issues
> 
> Dear Guy,
> I think this will work as long as the QTH consists of just
> one word. The problem is how to just change the first space
> not the other. If this is solved I guess that one have to
> change all other comments added to Notes for this QSO
> manually. I have in those contacts with several different
> operators and QTHs used , and | to separate them. Perhaps it
> is better to do it in sequence, like export and remove all
> that do not have any separation signs like , | and then
> delete them from the data base and try to work with the less
> complex. When those are fixed the other may be changed
> manually.
> 73 de Mel - SM0MPV
> 
> 73s Mel - SM0MPV
> 
> > OK Tonno,
> >
> > B4 YOU TRY THIS MAKE BACKUPS !!!!!!!
> >
> > With spaces it is (a little) harder but I think it could
> > be done
> > And if only Names and qth are in it, other comments or
> > data will mess up
> >
> > If you like you can try the following or wait until Paul
> > comes up
> > with a solution, and I know for sure it will not be easy
> > because
> > everybody has filled in differently.
> >
> > First step
> > Export your log in Version 7 using the dx4win6 I/E filter
> > Name it ES5TV-v7
> > Now you should have
> > ES5TV-v7.DXQ and ES5TV-v7.DXN
> >
> > We ARE only interested in the ES5TV-v7.DXN file
> > Open this file with TEXTPAD or similar editor that has
> > more
> > Options those provided by WINDOWS (they don´t work for
> > this)
> > Now you will see something like this example
> >
> > JA1BNL,TAKA TOKYO
> > Now with textpad you search for a (space) and replace with
> > (space)IN(space)
> > Afterwards it should look like
> > JA1BNL,TAKA IN TOKYO
> >
> > If ok you do replace all
> >
> > Save the file
> >
> > Second step
> > Open Version 7
> > Close your log
> > New Log
> > Name it ES5TV-TESTLOG
> > VERY IMPORTANT NOW
> > PUT 1 QSO IN THIS NEW LOG
> > SAVE THE LOG with alt-s
> > Now import with dx4win6 I/E filter ES5TV-v7.DXQ
> > Also the correct *.DXN needs to be there
> > Take the second option in possibilities
> > if there would be an other problems
> > The import would stop if you chose the first one
> > If all goes well you have a new log with the correct
> > delimiter
> >
> > Third step
> > Copy this log ES5TV-TESTLOG.DXL in version 8 save
> > directory
> > Close everything else
> > Start DX4W801 now
> > Close the log you have open and then open
> > The new log you placed in the save directory
> > It will be converted to the V8 standard now
> >
> > Now go to QSO|multiple QSO´s operations|Set Name and Qth
> > And all should be put in correct fields
> >
> > Guy ON4AOI
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > Van: Tonno Vahk [mailto:tonno.vahk at mail.ee]
> > > Verzonden: zaterdag 8 augustus 2009 21:37
> > > Aan: 'ON4AOI'; 'Mel'
> > > CC: dx4win at mailman.qth.net
> > > Onderwerp: RE: [Dx4win] Ver 8.01 issues
> > >
> > > It does not work this way Guy!
> > >
> > > I am also in trouble with the delimiter as I have used
> > space between
> > > name
> > > and QTH.
> > >
> > > I have been trying to find way to export the log to
> > change the
> > > delimiter but
> > > it is impossible with DXQ-QXN export-import because the
> > Notes for This
> > > Call
> > > gets doubled! Meaning the old values are not replaced
> > whatever you do
> > > but
> > > anything you import on top of them are added with "/".
> > >
> > > Even if you export your log, delete ALL QSOs after that
> > and import all
> > > the
> > > QSOs back then your Notes for This Call get multiplied
> > by two with "/"
> > > in
> > > between. Crazy.
> > >
> > > And it is not possible to open a new log file (thus
> > getting rid of the
> > > old
> > > Notes... data) and import all QSOs there because then
> > you also lose all
> > > the
> > > Groups list.
> > >
> > > Thus as far as I have no idea how do change delimiter
> > automatically in
> > > ADIF
> > > file with my domestic tools like excel etc I don't see
> > any way to
> > > accomplish
> > > this task without the program being modified to let the
> > user choose the
> > > delimiter, better yet logic similar to Excel Text to
> > Columns.
> > >
> > > What I really need is to be able to split at the first
> > space. As there
> > > are
> > > often spaces in QTH description (like near Rome or
> > alike).
> > >
> > > 73
> > > Tonno
> > > ES5TV
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dx4win-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-
> > > bounces at mailman.qth.net]
> > > On Behalf Of ON4AOI
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 6:27 PM
> > > To: 'Mel'
> > > Cc: dx4win at mailman.qth.net
> > > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Ver 8.01 issues
> > >
> > > Thats normally fixed in a few minutes
> > > In version 7
> > > Export your log >>> DX4WIN6
> > > THE *.DXN file contains the name and qth, change the
> > delimiter with
> > > textpad
> > > or similar to IN
> > > Save and import
> > >
> > > Guy ON4AOI
> > >
> > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > Van: Mel [mailto:ve2dc at videotron.ca]
> > > > Verzonden: dinsdag 4 augustus 2009 17:18
> > > > Aan: ON4AOI
> > > > Onderwerp: Re: [Dx4win] Ver 8.01 issues
> > > >
> > > > very nice... but I have 25,000 QSOs not formatted that
> > way Guy ;-)
> > > >
> > > > ON4AOI wrote:
> > > > > Mel and others
> > > > >
> > > > > The delimiter in or IN works perfect
> > > > >
> > > > > So MEL IN STE-MARTINE works 100 %
> > > > >
> > > > > And will populate Name =EL and QTH=TE-MARTINE
> > > > >
> > > > > When you do multiple QSO´s operations - Set Name
> and
> > Qth
> > > > >
> > > > > Guy ON4AOI
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > >> Van: dx4win-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-
> > > > >> bounces at mailman.qth.net] Namens Mel
> > > > >> Verzonden: dinsdag 4 augustus 2009 17:07
> > > > >> Aan: David, K2DBK
> > > > >> CC: DX4WIN
> > > > >> Onderwerp: Re: [Dx4win] Ver 8.01 issues
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I would suggest that you not use DX4Win to populate
> > the name and
> > > QTH
> > > > >> fields then. If Paul doesn't allow a specified
> > delimiter ("," or
> > > "|"
> > > > or
> > > > >> "in") then either Jim will modify one of his
> > programs or I will
> > > > write a
> > > > >> new one. I already have a program than could do
> > this (To recognize
> > > a
> > > > >> ","
> > > > >> as well as "|" is a one line change) but it works
> > with ADIF which
> > > > >> doesn't preserve LotW status for example. I used it
> > to transfer
> > > > DX4Win
> > > > >> data to another logger I was testing (D4W was
> > better). Jim's
> > > > programs
> > > > >> work with DXQ which is preferable... so I'm hoping
> > that he might
> > > > hack
> > > > >> one of his programs if we ask him really nicely ;-)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Mel...VE2DC
> > > > >>
> > > > >> David, K2DBK wrote:
> > > > >>> I'd been using ","  (such as   "David, River
> > Vale") but I can
> > > live
> > > > >> with
> > > > >>> it. I suppose the optimal solution would be to
> > have the user
> > > > specify
> > > > >> the
> > > > >>> delimiter, but if I really feel the need I can
> > export my log,
> > > > massage
> > > > >>> the data, and re-import it. I'm just happy to have
> > the new
> > > version
> > > > >> out,
> > > > >>> and am anxiously awaiting my version 8 key. :-)
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Mel wrote:
> > > > >>>> Perhaps he could also delimit on "|"... I don't
> > believe I am the
> > > > >> only
> > > > >>>> one using this convention.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> re MFSK ... conversion to MFSK16 should be OK as
> > I don't think
> > > > MFSK8
> > > > >>>> is used a lot.... not really an issue here as I
> > can change the
> > > few
> > > > >>>> QSOS involved manually in less time than it took
> > me to complain
> > > > >> about
> > > > >>>> it ;-)
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> I exported in DX4Win ver 6.03 format. I'll send
> > you the file if
> > > > you
> > > > >>>> like Jim.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Maybe you could make your program QSX & Name
> > fix... I already
> > > > wrote
> > > > >> a
> > > > >>>> program to do this and it works fine... but it
> > works on the ADIF
> > > > >> file.
> > > > >>>> If I export/import ADIF I will lose information.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> I will send file direct.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> Regarding name, etc.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> If you read the on-line help, you'll see that
> > DX4WIN looks for:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>   <name> in <QTH>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> MFSK is not a real mode.  Neither is PSK.  PSK
> > was removed from
> > > > >> this
> > > > >>>>> release, QSOs should automatically convert to
> > PSK31.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> For QSOs where the Frequency string was
> > "Frequency=NNNKHz)
> > > the
> > > > >>>>>> "Frequency=was left in the notes field
> > instead of being
> > > > >> supressed.
> > > > >>>>> Since that's from an import, Paul can
> > (hopefully) fix this.  I
> > > > can
> > > > >>>>> modify my "qsxfix" program to deal with this.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> I'm curious about the Satellite QSOs.  What
> > export/import
> > > format
> > > > >> did
> > > > >>>>> you use?  Would you be willing to send me the
> > file you tried to
> > > > >> import
> > > > >>>>> (please ZIP it first)?
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> 73 - Jim AD1C
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:05 AM,
> > Mel<ve2dc at videotron.ca> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> I exported my ver & data and imported it into
> > ver 8 to verify
> > > > the
> > > > >> data
> > > > >>>>>> converts properly.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Issues...
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> I had a few rejects where the mode was MFSK...
> > should probably
> > > > >> convert
> > > > >>>>>> to MFSK16.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> I had over 100 cryptic errors {Satel Mode=...
> > These were not
> > > > >>>>>> satellite
> > > > >>>>>> QSOs and were various modes and bands.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> When extracting Frequency...
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> For QSOs where the Frequency string was
> > "Frequency=NNNKHz)
> > > the
> > > > >>>>>> "Frequency=was left in the notes field
> > instead of being
> > > > >> supressed.
> > > > >>>>>> When Extracting Name QTH
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> I store my data in the Format"Name| QTH| Notes"
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> I would have thought this would have been easy
> > to extract...
> > > but
> > > > >> the
> > > > >>>>>> entire string ends up in NAME... what delimiter
> > is being used?
> > > > >>>>>> Shouldn't
> > > > >>>>>> the line break be a valid delimiter?
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Mel, VE2DC
> > > > >>>>>>
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