[Dx4win] QSL mgr anomaly

[Garry Shapiro]

Kostas,

I think we are getting somewhere. It had not occurred to me to look at 
the database!

Following your post, I opened the QSL Manager database and found about 
two dozen entries for VQ9LA, many of which were identical, and some 
where only the date was different, pointing not only to VQ9LA himself, 
but also to the two Stateside  "managers" (N0QM and WD0HSP) he does NOT 
want cards sent to (these are home calls and Larry says it will delay 
things over a year), and also lines for phony managers I had typed into 
the manager box in the QSO entry window to try to get something to 
change. This was a clue! I changed all the callsigns to VQ9LA and now 
the QSO entry window QSL manager box is happy. I also tried erasing a 
bunch of the redundant entries by erasing the info in them. The 
now-empty lines wind up at the top of the file, but nothing else changes.

It may be that every entry in the QSL manager box that is saved gets a 
line in the QSL manager database, whatever its content. But if there are 
conflicts, the behavior I observed can occur. However, since I use both 
RAC and qrz.com for external data, those references--including the 
incorrect managers--still persist in the F3 window. That is, the QSL 
manager box is now well-behaved, but pressing F3 /may/ bring up /all/ 
the information, including the bogus info, because the bogus info is 
still in the external databases.

So it is not foolproof but it is better. Thank you for helping me think 
more globally about this.

Garry, NI6T



Kostas SV1DPI wrote:
> i am trying to explain this behaviour but i can't think many things.  
> I can change any manager i like. I don't know if the user level (mine 
> is set to expert) affects this. Another thing to try is this: you can 
> search your database managers "manually". Go to file>databases>qsl 
> managers. Do a search for vq9la. there is a case to have some entries 
> (especially some with dates) in database which make all the confusion. 
> For example if you have an entry like
> vq9la  22/08/2008 sv1dpi
> that means that after 22/08/2008 manager will be sv1dpi.
> but if you have another one like
> vq9la 23/08/2008 ni6t
> this means that sv1dpi is the manager only at 22 Aug 2008. So if you 
> have a qso at this date maybe you can not change this qsl manager 
> entry in the qso window. But you can do this inside the database.
>
> Kostas sv1dpi
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garry Shapiro" <garry at ni6t.com>
> To: "Kostas SV1DPI" <sv1dpi at otenet.gr>
> Cc: "REFLECTOR dx4win" <dx4win at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 12:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] QSL mgr anomaly
>
>
>> Kostas,
>>
>> Unfortunately, that is not the case here. In fact, the opposite 
>> appears to be true. Here are two examples.
>>
>> 1. I have seven QSO's with VQ9LA. The earliest three are RTTY QSO's 
>> and none of them will accept a change in the manager listing in the 
>> QSL Mgr. box; the next four did accept the change.  However, I can 
>> put the same mailing address in all the address boxes (Ctl-E).
>>
>> 2. I have three QSO's with HB0/DA1WA. The first QSO will not accept a 
>> change in the manager listing, but the other two did. Again, the 
>> mailing address box is the same for all three.
>>
>> I closed and reopened DX4WIN--no difference. I can change the manager 
>> callsign until I turn blue, but it always reverts to the prior entry.
>>
>> Garry, NI6T
>>
>> Kostas SV1DPI wrote:
>>> I think you musy correct the oldest qso. Then the change will take 
>>> effect in all qsos.
>>> 73 Kostas sv1dpi
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garry Shapiro" <garry at ni6t.com>
>>> To: "DX4WIN Reflector" <dx4win at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 3:40 AM
>>> Subject: [Dx4win] QSL mgr anomaly
>>>
>>>
>>>> Occasionally, the listed manager for a station is no longer 
>>>> correct. Usually, merely replacing the callsign in the QSL Mgr. box 
>>>> in the QSO window suffices. But I have had several instances where 
>>>> the QSL manager entry will not "take"--when saving changes, the old 
>>>> callsign reappears. This seems particularly likely when there are 
>>>> multiple QSO's with the same station. Then, some of the QSO's may 
>>>> accept the change, and some not. I cannot seem to break this loop
>>>>
>>>> At the moment, I am trying to re-QSL VQ9LA, direct for four out of 
>>>> seven QSO's. DX4WIN had it right but RAC and GoWin had later 
>>>> entries suggesting Larry's home QTH in Missouri. Larry's QRZ.com 
>>>> entry, however, and Larry himself, state otherwise. I want to print 
>>>> new labels, including manager addresses, but am having a helluva 
>>>> time trying to do so.
>>>>
>>>> Is this a bug, or is there a solution out there?
>>>>
>>>> Garry, NI6T
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