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I've had a request to post instructions on how to do a local loopback from AR USER to DX4WIN...here they are. 1. In AR USER, click on configuration, then on ports. Make sure that under Local Network, TNC is checked. 2. Edit the DX4WIN file dx4win.tcp and add the following address 127.0.0.0:7300 Start AR USER, and connect to your local cluster. Start DX4WIN, and in the packet window, connect to 127.0.0.0:7300 (this is the local telnet loopback port) The spots from AR USER should now be flowing through to DX4WIN. That's all there is to it. Enjoy 73 de Don