[Dx4win] DXCC Award Submission problem

Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:18:39 -0500

All of which is further complicated by the fact that unless instructed
otherwise, the ARRL will give you credit for all Q's on a multiple-Q
card.  DX4WIN, of course, does not "know" that the card is multiple-Q.

Early last month I submitted a total of 1,400 cards or so and can hardly
wait for the amount of work it will take to get the ARRL totals to match
mine.

As for those who might think that Logbook of the World is going to make
this easier -- I doubt it.  There are issues regarding integration with
the DX4WIN software, operation from multiple locations, and whether or
not there is wide participation.

Mike WA0SXV

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Duane A Calvin
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 09:37
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] DXCC Award Submission problem

A couple of clarifications:

1. DX4WIN only credits if you request that credit to happen by turning
on
or off the valid bands to match (or separate award).  So, if you submit
your first DXCC MIXED, with 105 cards, those QSO's will be credited in
DX4WIN *only* for Mixed.  Not for Mode or Band, which the ARRL will
automatically credit you for towards those awards.  This is what I'm
attempting to describe.  

2. Taking cards to hamfests places a limit of something like120 cards
for
your submission.  This causes one to start eliminating categories to
trim
the list.  So, let's say I want to trim my list by not submitting for
the
40m band category, and I turn that off in DX4WIN.  The logic will cause
any submissions that were purely for 40m band to be eliminated.
However,
a new mode QSL that happens to be on 40m will be submitted, and the ARRL
will credit it for both mode and 40m band credit.  However, DX4WIN will
not credit it for 40m.  Giving credit vs. what you are submitting for
are
two different concepts, and that is where DX4WIN errs.  This is the kind
of thing I'm describing.

3. Agreed, ARRL will not give you an award for anything with less than
100 countries, however, that QSO is credited toward the award whether
you
have applied for it or not (re: the example above).

4. And, yes, the ARRL has not always taken this approach, however they
have consistently since I've been submitting cards, which started in
1990
or '91.  So, for old timers, they still need to do that initial
reconcile.

Sorry to belabor this, but I hope it clears up what I'm trying to say. 
The last time I spoke to him about it, Paul agreed it did not work as
the
ARRL describes they do the crediting, but was adamant he was not going
change it because of  how he reads the rules.  I like the program in
almost all other respects, but this part always causes me more grief
than
I like!

        73,  Duane