[DX] ARRL BPL Video

Dave Shrader [email protected]
Sat, 09 Aug 2003 07:11:01 -0400


Hi Chip,

It's nice to know that you are still actively reading the various groups.

I would like to hear your thoughts, not on BPL interfering with HF/VHF 
reception, but to the susceptibility of the BPL system and BPL users to 
undesired reception of HF signals that emanate from my or your HF/VHF 
radio. I run 1 KW on HF. When I point my beam at the local power lines 
and have a Rag Chew or spend an hour chasing a DX pile what's going to 
happen to my BPL using neighbor's internet connection?

73,

Deacon Dave, W1MCE



[email protected] wrote:
> In a message dated 8/8/03 12:53:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] 
> writes:
> 
> 
> 
>>Chip,
>>
>>You must be a dope.  The problem isn't 30 miles from the power lines. 
>>We all live adjacent to power lines.  How does power get into your
>>house?  Or do you power your rig with hot air?
>>
>>Mike
>>
> 
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> I confess that new knowledge is a daily acquisition for me, so I assume that 
> is the nature of your comment, and that you do not mean this as a defamatory 
> characterization..
> 
> I fear you may have bought into the fear but not the fact. There is no 
> evidence that living near power lines will get hams off the air at HF under BPL. All 
> I can see is evidence that driving very close and  under power lines, in the 
> near field,  with a large, parallel antenna,causes a high noise level in some 
> BPL service areas.
> 
> If hams can't make the case for bona fide intereference to their licensed 
> service by BPL, then there is no question that few, if any, restrictions will be 
> imposed against BPL.
> 
> Here are some thoughts on how to make the case, assuming there is a case to 
> be made:
> 
> 1) demonstrate in-shack BPL  RFI to an extant HF set up with an outdoor 
> antenna, such as a dipole, Yagi, etc.
> 2) demonstrate that this occurs many times to many hams in many locations 
> within the extant (limited) BPL networks.
> 3)demonstrate that BPL propagates to areas far outside the service area (such 
> as many hundreds or thousands of miles away) and that this causes RFI to hams 
> outside of the service area.
> 4) demonstrate--and this can be done by calculation based upon received noise 
> levels--that BPL will impede emergency communications in HF far beyond the 
> BPL service area.
> 
> These data would effectively kill BPL as presently configured.
> 
> If hams do not make such a case, or such a case can't be made, then the power 
> companies will take their paid consultants and show that hams are being 
> reactionary and not factual. It will also bring up the question of exactly why hams 
> need all that HF spectrum anyway.
> 
> The alleged BPL problem is not solved by money, IMO. It is solved by a few 
> simple cases of documented RFI, in real circumstances, which would seem to be 
> virtually free to gather.
> 
> I know that some here will understand that these comments will be profoundly 
> helpful if implemented.
> 
> 73,
> Chip N1IR
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