Thanx to K8AV and N5IN for the links, , , It it is appreciated. There are NO local spots in my area we have a local packet node, (I think) but not very much activity Thanx again for the leads folks, , , , , -- Dr Pepper aka WB6GKI in the High Desert of California. Check out my LIVE Hamshack Cam at: http://www1.iwvisp.com/DrPepper/ham/ham.htm =====================================