[Dx-qsl] NEW DXCC RULES - REMOTE STATIONS

[Joseph Orsak]

Good point Joey, maybe I'll keep at it but I just won't bother sending in 
the fees and money for plaques, certificates, pins, etc. I'll just keep 
track of them myself and like you say: "I'LL know what I'VE accomplished." 
Hell, I bet I can make myself a better looking award anyway Ha Ha!
73,
Joe W4WN
#1 Tippy Top Operator Owned Antenna System Coax Fed From Actual On Site 
Radio Super Duper Highest Accolades with Solid 24 Carat Gold Ultimate Award 
Champion


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Joey Fiero II A.R.S. W5TFW" <joeyw5tfw at gmail.com>
To: "'Joseph Orsak'" <jorsak at nc.rr.com>; "'Joe Subich, W4TV'" 
<w4tv at subich.com>; <dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:10 PM
Subject: RE: [Dx-qsl] NEW DXCC RULES - REMOTE STATIONS


>I disagree,
>
> this has always been a GENTLEMANS GAME. One has always been able to CHEAT 
> at
> this if one wanted to. YOU know what YOU have done. finish what you 
> started.
> This is ONLY for US anyway, no one else really cares if we have HONOR ROLL
> but DXers anyway.
>
>                                              Joey W5TFW // V44TFW
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DX-QSL [mailto:dx-qsl-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joseph
> Orsak
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:04 PM
> To: Joe Subich, W4TV; dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] NEW DXCC RULES - REMOTE STATIONS
>
> Well looks like I'll just start putting my disposable income towards my
> other hobby. Fun while it lasted but if this is truly the way it works now 
> I
> don't see any point in pursuing DXCC awards any further.
>
> 73,
> Joe W4WN
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <w4tv at subich.com>
> To: <dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] NEW DXCC RULES - REMOTE STATIONS
>
>
>>
>> Well that makes a mockery of DXCC.  A US station could rent super-
>> stations in Maine, Washington, Texas and Florida to get the "easy"
>> path to P5, 3Y1-b, or even K1N (KP1), etc. on all bands.
>>
>> The Board *should have* limited DXCC credit to QSOs made from the
>> operator's "Home Station" only.  Thus a "snow bird" could remotely
>> operate his station in Michigan from his winter home in Florida
>> or the station at his "winter home" in Arizona from his "summer
>> place" in Idaho but not play "dial a DX" by picking a commercial
>> "for rent" QTH based on beneficial propagation (and bankroll).
>> An individual who lives in a CC&R restricted community would still
>> be free to build a remote station "on a farm" outside town - it's
>> his "home station" but again, he would be restricted to that single
>> remote station and not play "dial a DX" ...
>>
>> Anyone in Western Washington have a station I can "borrow" next time
>> XZ, BS7, BV9P and P5 are on the air (or a bunch of others I need on
>> the low bands)?
>>
>> 73,
>>
>>   ... Joe, W4TV
>>
>>
>> On 2015-01-22 4:57 PM, dx-qsl-request at mailman.qth.net wrote:
>>> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 16:05:54 -0500
>> > From: Ken Boasi<n2zn at rochester.rr.com>
>> > To: MG<mgreen at erols.com> Cc: DX Posts<DX-QSL at mailman.qth.net>
>> >  Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] NEW DXCC RULES - REMOTE STATIONS
>>> Message-ID:<65C85CE1-AAAF-416F-BA71-B097468B1298 at rochester.rr.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>
>>> Yes, you read it right; the operator can be anywhere in the world.
>>> The important part is this line:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Transmitter location continues to define a station's location, and,
>>> for DXCC purposes, all transmitters and receivers must be located
>>> within a 500 meter diameter circle, excluding antennas".
>>>
>>> So, you can't really use a Japanese remote station to work P5 and
>>> expect to get credit for your US call. Even if you were operating the
>>> Japanese remote legally with a JA call, it's still no good for your
>>> US call based DXCC award.
>>>
>>> Where the RF is being generated from is the important part, in
>>> addition to having a legal license to operate (generate RF) from that
>>> location.
>>>
>>> Ken N2ZN
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