[Dx-qsl] PSE ADVISE for SWL card

Thu Aug 16 10:24:59 EDT 2012

Hi Boris,

you're right when checking SWL reports with the Cluster. I do the same and just
rejected two cards from a german SWL...he wrote down my cluster spotting...
All I said is my personal opinion. May be a Ham collects even SWL cards (for
any reason - may be a missing bandpoint for SWL or needed for a SWL diploma),
you are right if you say, he can even write down some other calls.
-> But the question is, if this is really necessarry?

Yes, german Hams send sometimes even a QSL for their personal call, when operating
from a Club station. If they do not saying please also a QSL for my own call, they are
not in the log. 

SWLing is easier. No hourse of shouting, keying etc... but HAM radio is more fun :-) 
- even with novice class

I do not SWL that much any more (only 3 DXCC missing for full house). Only when I need
a card for some reason.

vy 73 
Andreas - DE1DXX (SWL) - DO1DXX (HAM)

-----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung----- 
Von: Boris Knezovic <t93y at lol.ba>
An: Andreas Ibold <de1dxx at aol.com>; dx-qsl <dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
Verschickt: Do, 16 Aug 2012 10:25 am
Betreff: RE: [Dx-qsl] PSE ADVISE for SWL card

Andreas,

Doing what you are suggesting looks to me as trying to get SWL report after 
DXpedition is over. Otherwise I do not see a problem writing down a few 
callsigns while calling DXpedition for QSO. Another problem with DL HAM's is 
that very often operators on club station want QSL on their personal callsign 
which is not in the LOG...

I check all SWL reports against DX cluster and it is funny that some SWL's 'have 
heard' QSO's that never happened because spotter did not worked QSO at that 
time.

73's Boris E73Y

-----Original Message-----
From: dx-qsl-bounces at mailman.qth.net on behalf of Andreas Ibold
Sent: Thu 16.8.2012 10:09
To: dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] PSE ADVISE for SWL card

Phil is absolutely correct - I'm a Ham and SWL.
Cluster reports are invalid, 2-3 QSOs for a SWL (best one after one) are okay.

But when sending a SWL QSL for a QSO with my personal Ham-call, I can't see
anything wrong in there. Why? Because I have really heard the DX-station 
(otherwise
I could not have able to make a QSO with it). And that shows better then 
anything else,
that I really have heard them. SWLs are trying to HEAR the DX station. And when 
I have
really heard them (even as a Ham), it should be o-kay.
Is DE1DXX another person as DO1DXX? I have the same name, QTH, Radio and the
same wife.

vy 73 
Andreas - DE1DXX (SWL) - DO1DXX (HAM)

-----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung----- 
Von: Yutaka Sakurai (ysakurai) <ysakurai at cisco.com>
An: Phil Whitchurch <phil at g3swh.demon.co.uk>
Cc: DX-QSL <DX-QSL at mailman.qth.net>
Verschickt: Do, 16 Aug 2012 7:48 am
Betreff: Re: [Dx-qsl] PSE ADVISE for SWL card

Phil,
I totally agreed with your policy.
 would like to translate the policy to Japanese language.
Yutaka, JQ2GYU
-----Original Message-----
rom: Phil Whitchurch [mailto:phil at g3swh.demon.co.uk] 
ent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 2:41 PM
o: Yutaka Sakurai (ysakurai)
c: DX-QSL at mailman.qth.net
ubject: Re: [Dx-qsl] PSE ADVISE for SWL card
My particular policy towards SWL cards is set out at http://www.g3swh.org.uk/swl_reports.html
Unfortunately, very few SWL reports comply as they only list a single station 
orked
73 for now
Phil
3SWH
On 16-Aug-12 04:55:34, Yutaka Sakurai (ysakurai) (ysakurai at cisco.com) wrote:
 Erick, Ken, Murray, and the others,

 Thank you very much for your advises.
 Actually, we got the SWL card enclosed with the QSL card from the same 
 person.
 The SWL card includes 160 - 10m SSB/CW/RTTY, but only 160m CW was made 
 by the same operator.

 Another big issue is that the other reports on the SWL card are the 
 just same as the DX-cluster reports.

 Yes, I, myself, have received such type of SWL reports a lot.
 Sometimes, the call sign that the SWL reports insist I made the QSO 
 are not in my log, but he or she just posted me on the DX-cluster.

 I dare say most SWL reports I have received so far seem not to really 
 heard but only based on the DX-cluster reports.
 I am very sad to say that the SWL activities "to get QSL cards" are 
 dying in these days when we have the DX-cluster system.

 Yutaka, JQ2GYU / JF1LZQ / WS2Y / M0LZP / T88YU

 -----Original Message-----
 From: dx-qsl-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx-qsl-bounces at mailman.qth.
 net] On Behalf Of G. E. Janssens - K5WW
 Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 1:14 PM
 To: dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] PSE ADVISE for SWL card

 With all due respect for other
 people's opinions: I do see something w
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