[Dx-qsl] 7O1A Yemen in 1996

Mon Apr 11 16:24:01 EDT 2011

Well, as I was taught MANY years ago....WFWL !!!  Most times it does pay 
off.....eventually!

73
Ken
WA8JOC

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From: "HK3CW" <cwdude at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 14:51
To: "Ron Lago" <ac7dx at comcast.net>
Cc: <dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] 7O1A Yemen in 1996

> Yup or like http://www.radio-sport.net/hk_ra3co2.htm
>
> We could be here all day exchanging ham cheater links...
>
> 73 de Rob  HK3CW
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Lago" <ac7dx at comcast.net>
> To: <dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 1:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] 7O1A Yemen in 1996
>
>
>> You mean like these people?
>> http://dokufunk.org/upload/xy0rr.pdf?PHPSESSID=4bd92b9f419c55b78ae9d7599a234ee5
>>
>> Check out the operators who knew they were not in Burma, but went on to
>> operate many Dxpeditions that counted...right Harry?
>> 73
>> Ron
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/11/2011 11:22 AM, HK3CW wrote:
>>> I agree but go tell that to the contest cheaters, its a hobby and 
>>> there's
>>> more cheaters that DXCC entities!
>>> There are cheaters everywhere! Like if I contact a rare island I would
>>> like
>>> for that station to be actually ON the island instead of on the boat 
>>> NEXT
>>> to
>>> the island. Or if I contact a station, I'd really like for that station
>>> to
>>> be legal not some bogus callsign pirated by somebody...
>>>
>>> 73 de HK3CW  Rob
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Richard J. Fiero II W5TFW"<joeyw5tfw at gmail.com>
>>> To:<dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 1:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] 7O1A Yemen in 1996
>>>
>>>
>>>> IMHO,
>>>>
>>>> this is a HOBBY,  why does it have to be such a LEGAL nightmare !
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joey
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Ron Notarius W3WN"<wn3vaw at verizon.net>
>>>> To:<nt5c at texas.net>
>>>> Cc:<dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 1:04 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] 7O1A Yemen in 1996
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> John,
>>>>>
>>>>> IIRC, the central ministry denied that the license issued by the 
>>>>> branch
>>>>> office was proper or legal.  So that's one big difference.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have had many long conversations with a former US Air Force officer
>>>>> too
>>>>> and from Dayton over the years, and one of our favorite topics was
>>>>> hashing
>>>>> out the 7O1 situatiions.  He told me that when he was active duty and
>>>>> working in that part of the world, it was not uncommon for things to 
>>>>> be
>>>>> done on a handshake... and if something became public knowledge that
>>>>> could
>>>>> be embarressing, or worse, could cost someone to have their head
>>>>> separated
>>>>> from the rest of their body, it was thus very easy for any public
>>>>> official
>>>>> to deny everything.
>>>>>
>>>>> In other words, and I'm speculating here, if someone involved with
>>>>> national security took afront to the 7O1A operation, it is easier for
>>>>> the
>>>>> people in San'aa to deny all (and shift the blame) rather than stick
>>>>> their
>>>>> necks out (almost literally) over the license issued in Aden.  And IF
>>>>> that
>>>>> is the case -- remember, I'm speculating here, I am not saying that
>>>>> this
>>>>> is fact -- who do you believe, when it comes to determing if the
>>>>> operators
>>>>> had a valid license to operate?
>>>>>
>>>>> And IIRC there have been other situations over the years where a
>>>>> government has retroactively cancelled or otherwise invalidated
>>>>> existing
>>>>> licenses (the 9U situation a few years back comes to mind), so this is
>>>>> not
>>>>> unprecedented.  I'm not saying it's right or it's fair, but it 
>>>>> happens.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Apr 11, 2011 01:26:17 PM, nt5c at texas.net wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 11, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Ron W3WN wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been told by a reliable source that, in essence, the hold up
>>>>>> on 7O1YGF was the lack of documentation -- ANY documentation -- that
>>>>>> showed that they were in the country legally, and/or that they had
>>>>>> permission to import the equipment they operated with, either of
>>>>>> which would imply that they had permission to operate.
>>>>> That's why I found the rejection of 7O1A odd. I've not heard anyone
>>>>> question that Franz and Zorro were legally in Yemen (Aden), or that
>>>>> they had permission to operate from the Ministry of Communication
>>>>> office there (perhaps it wasn't written?). It's really not our
>>>>> problem if, after the fact, the Sana'a central Ministry office
>>>>> resented what their Aden branch had done.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah well - thanks for confirming that I'm not missing one guys!
>>>>>
>>>>> John, NT5C.
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