[Dx-qsl] VU7LD qsos upload to LOTW

[Dave AA6YQ]

Once you upload a QSO to LotW, there is no way to correct it if you later
discover an error in what you uploaded. Someone who has already uploaded a
QSO with VU7LD/VU3RSB must now upload a QSO with VU7LD -- either by
modifying the original QSO in his or her log and then re-uploading it, or by
logging a new QSO with VU7LD that is in all other respects identical to the
VU7LD/VU3RSB QSO and re-uploading that. If one chooses the first approach,
then one's log is accurate, but there's now an entry in LOTW -- the QSO with
VU7LD/VU3RSB -- that matches no QSO in the user's log; we have come to refer
to these as Zombie QSOs. The second approach ensures that there's a logged
QSO for each of the user's LOTW entries, but records the same VU7LD QSO
twice. Pick your poison.

It would be nice if a user could delete an erroneous LotW entry in his or
her account so that uploading a correction didn't create a Zombie.

    73,

         Dave, AA6YQ


-----Original Message-----
From: dx-qsl-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:dx-qsl-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Terry
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 4:13 PM
To: bernie at dailydx.com
Cc: dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] VU7LD qsos upload to LOTW


That's fine Bernie.  I'll take the blame for uploading my VU7LD QSO
wrong.  That's not really my point.  My point is that this type of
confusion will continue for LOTW transactions because LOTW is so rigid
as to what constitutes a legitimate match, as well it should.  This puts
the burden on DXpeditions to make sure they indicate what callsign is
going to be uploaded.

This might even require logging programs to have an additional field:
LOTW callsign vs. logged callsign.

73 de Terry KK6T

Bernie McClenny, W3UR wrote:
> Terry all the press I saw said the callsign for all of the ops was VU7LD
and
> they had to identify themselves as the operator.  There was only one
license
> and only one QSL card.  The QSL had one callsign - VU7LD.  It did list who
> the ops were that you worked at the bottom of the lable.
>
> Bernie
>
>
> Bernie McClenny, W3UR
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry [mailto:terry at kk6t.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 14:59
> To: bernie at dailydx.com
> Cc: dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] VU7LD qsos upload to LOTW
>
> Bernie your example isn't quite fair.  If someone logs you as W3UR/VP2V
> when you were transmitting VP2V/W3UR then they are at fault and have no
> one to blame if they don't get a match in LOTW.
>
> In the case of VU7LD, they were sending VU7LD/VU2.... and that's what
> many of us logged.  That included me because I was taught to log what
> was sent.  In all cases it should be made very clear (and maybe it was
> for VU7LD) that the callsign that will be uploaded to LOTW is XXXXX and
> not XXXX/XXX.  There will be lots of busted Qs in LOTW otherwise.
>
> 73 de Terry KK6T
>
> Bernie McClenny, W3UR wrote:
>
>> Yes the VU7LD logs have been uploaded to LOTW.  The callsign was VU7LD
and
>> not VU7LD/VU2xxx.  The /VU2xxx was to indicate who the operator was.
This
>> was required by Indian authorities but the actual license was VU7LD!  So
>>
> if
>
>> you don't have a match or confirmation you should check your LOTW log!
>>
>> It is very important that everyone who uses LOTW logs and uses the right
>> callsign.  If I were to operate from the British Virgin Islands and sign
>> VP2V/W3UR on the air and upload my call as W3UR/VP2V anyone who logged
>> VP2V/W3UR would never get credit.  If I operated as VP2V/W3UR uploaded
the
>> log as VP2V/W3UR and someone loaded the QSO as W3UR/VP2V they would not
>>
> get
>
>> credit.  Bottom line is for everyone to get the call right!
>>
>> Nice to see another country (VU7) using LOTW!  Well over 300 countries
are
>> now in LOTW.
>>
>> 73
>> Bernie, W3UR
>>
>> Bernie McClenny, W3UR
>> ------------------------------------------
>> Now more than ever - you need The Daily DX and The Weekly DX - to keep up
>> with the DX news from around the globe!
>>
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>>
> http://www.dailydx.com/order.htm
>
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>> http://www.dailydx.com/weekly2.html
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>>
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dx-qsl-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>
> [mailto:dx-qsl-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
>
>> On Behalf Of Jim Spears
>> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 13:46
>> To: dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: [Dx-qsl] VU7LD qsos upload to LOTW
>>
>> One of our locals reported that his VU7LD qsos got matches from the
upload
>> earlier today.  Mine did not, I looked at the situation.  He uploaded his
>> log without the /VU. part and I had the /VU. as part of the call sign.
>>
> The
>
>> upload was for VU7LD only as the call sign.  Therefore there was no
match.
>> Time for a log update/upload.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> N1NK
>>
>>
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