[Dx-qsl] SSL added to MyQsl Service
Chuck
cdegard at cox.net
Tue Dec 18 19:33:42 EST 2007
Les,
Don't forget. The DXCC program is the ARRL's and they make the rules. If you
don't like'em, go play another game. It might be solitaire.
de K7PT
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From: <w4sco at sco-inc.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 4:56 PM
To: "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw at verizon.net>
Cc: <dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: RE: [Dx-qsl] SSL added to MyQsl Service
>
>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: RE: [Dx-qsl] SSL added to MyQsl Service
>> From: "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw at verizon.net>
>> Date: Tue, December 18, 2007 5:52 pm
>> To: <w4sco at sco-inc.org>
>> Cc: <dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
>>
>> I'll give you credit for chutzpah, sir, but that's all.
>>
>> Threatening to take the ARRL to court for restraint of trade for not
>> giving
>> you recognition? When you haven't yet asked them (as you have told me
>> yourself in private emails)?
>
> I don't believe that is what I said. I probably did say that I am
> developing a new method of exchanging qsl cards. After I get it to the
> point where I am confident that it is secure I will start to get award
> organizations to accept it. if the ARRL (at that time) decided to
> continue their (there is only one acceptable form of electronic
> submission ... and it is LOTW ... their own program). Then I would have
> cause to believe that there were attempting to maintain their monopoly
> and to restrain other forms of electronic submission that might compete
> with their program.
>
>> Now I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on Television. I do know a good
>> one, and I plan to ask him for his opinion of your little venture. But
>> be
>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dx-qsl-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>> [mailto:dx-qsl-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of w4sco at sco-inc.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 1:26 PM
>> To: Danny Douglas
>> Cc: dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: RE: [Dx-qsl] SSL added to MyQsl Service
>>
>>
>> Thank you for your words of reason.
>> I am still waiting for at least 7 years for cards (of my own) from 20
>> countries. I have sent out cards and green stamps more than once, to
>> these hams. I think 7 years is long enough to wait. So i thought of a
>> better system to exchange qsl cards. It is still being developed and
>> modified to increase user confidence.
>>
>> I am considering all the comments i receive and have just added SSL
>> security to the system. I have added a checkbox for the registering
>> users to check that they are the lawful owner of the callsign they are
>> using. I am also considering having them submit a signed copy of their
>> license for me to keep on file with their other info. I may even look at
>> digitally signing each card uploaded and downloaded via the system.
>>
>> There is a long established principle in this country that there should
>> be no monopolies or restraint of trade. Once my system is as secure and
>> bullet proof as I can make it I will make the ARRL aware of my service
>> and the need to open their doors (or close them to all systems of
>> electronic submission [LOTW]). Hopefully with enough research and
>> support from hams worldwide the ARRL will accept what they must do or I
>> would need to persue my rights on another path.
>>
>> Les W4SCO
>>
>>
>> > -------- Original Message --------
>> > Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] SSL added to MyQsl Service
>> > From: "Danny Douglas" <n7dc at vabb.com>
>> > Date: Tue, December 18, 2007 1:06 pm
>> > To: <dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
>> >
>> > >From the responses, it appears to me that no one WANTS a new system to
>> work.
>> > Why are we being negative toward an attempt to improve exchanges of
>> > cards?
>> > There were lots (and still are) of complaints against LOTW and eQSL as
>> well.
>> > And both of them work, for what they are.
>> >
>> > How about some positive suggestions on how to get a printed QSL from
>> > the
>> DX
>> > to us, without the expensive mails services, the costs of stamps, IRCs
>> > or
>> > green stamps, and the long period of time between requests and
>> > receipts?
>> > Today, even legal documents can be sent (and legally accepted by
>> > authorities) by electronic means. If a fax can be accepted as legal
>> > documentation for such things as birth, death, marriage certificates,
>> > insurance paperwork, deeds, etc. why must something such as a simple
>> > postcard for a hobby be such a scarey tought? There is not a one of
>> > us,
>> on
>> > this group email, that cant simply set down and fake any card we wish,
>> then
>> > send it in for acceptance. Its Our trustworthiness keeping us from it,
>> and
>> > for those who would fake any electronic card, there would be no
>> > difference
>> > between that and what they may already be doing.
>> >
>> >
>> > Danny Douglas
>> > N7DC
>> > ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA
>> > SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB
>> > All 2 years or more (except Novice)
>> > Pls QSL direct, buro, or LOTW preferred,
>> > I Do not use, but as a courtesy do upload to eQSL for
>> > those who do.
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Mr. Richard J. Fiero II W5TFW" <w5tfw at cox.net>
>> > To: <dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 12:45 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] SSL added to MyQsl Service
>> >
>> >
>> > > more Spam !
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Mr Richard J. Fiero II
>> > > A.R.S. W5TFW
>> > > Em-40 DXCC VUCC
>> > > www.w5tfw.com
>> > > www.6mt.com
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Terry" <terry at kk6t.com>
>> > > To: <w4sco at sco-inc.org>
>> > > Cc: <dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 11:43 AM
>> > > Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] SSL added to MyQsl Service
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > You're creating a false sense of security here. All you're
>> > > > insuring
>> is
>> > > > that the person that registered is the person uploading &
>> > > > downloading.
>> > > > Until you implement some way to insure that the person registering
>> > > > is
>> > the
>> > > > legal owner of the callsign it's a sham.
>> > > >
>> > > > 73 de Terry KK6T
>> > > >
>> > > > w4sco at sco-inc.org wrote:
>> > > >> In response to concerns about the security level of qsl cards
>> exchanged
>> > > >> via MyQsl Service I have added SSL to the website. This results in
>> > > >> a
>> > new
>> > > >> URL ... https://www.myqsl.cc. This should make it virtually
>> impossible
>> > > >> for anyone other than the registered Hams (with their callsigns)
>> > > >> to
>> > > >> upload and download qsl cards via the system.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I am considering also asking users of the service to provide a
>> > > >> copy
>> of
>> > > >> their signed ham license to prove that they are in fact the ham
>> > > >> they
>> > say
>> > > >> they are when they register. This would mean that only licensed
>> > > >> hams
>> > are
>> > > >> uploading and downloading cards on the system.
>> > > >> Les W4SCO
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> "Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've
>> > > >> got...till it's gone." from Big Yellow Taxi (Joni Mitchell)
>> > > >> but
>> > also
>> > > >> true about QSL.NET if more users don't open their wallets and help
>> > > >> financially. Please contribute TODAY !!
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > > "Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've
>> > > > got...till it's gone." from Big Yellow Taxi (Joni Mitchell)
>> > > > but
>> > also
>> > > > true about QSL.NET if more users don't open their wallets and help
>> > > > financially. Please contribute TODAY !!
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've
>> > got...till it's gone." from Big Yellow Taxi (Joni Mitchell) but
>> > also
>> > true about QSL.NET if more users don't open their wallets and help
>> > financially. Please contribute TODAY !!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
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>> > 12/17/2007 2:13 PM
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've
>> got...till it's gone." from Big Yellow Taxi (Joni Mitchell) but also
>> true about QSL.NET if more users don't open their wallets and help
>> financially. Please contribute TODAY !!
>>
>>
>> "Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've
>> got...till
>> it's gone." from Big Yellow Taxi (Joni Mitchell) but also true about
>> QSL.NET if more users don't open their wallets and help financially.
>> Please
>> contribute TODAY !!
>
>
> "Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've
> got...till it's gone." from Big Yellow Taxi (Joni Mitchell) but also
> true about QSL.NET if more users don't open their wallets and help
> financially. Please contribute TODAY !!
>
>
> --
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> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1188 - Release Date:
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>
Best,
Chuck
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