[Dx-qsl] (no subject)

[Ron Notarius W3WN]

Les:

This is a very dangerous statement.

You are inviting people to defraud the ARRL DXCC program.

Why?  Because you choose not to follow their rules.

QSL "cards" that have been reproduced by the recipient are not valid for
DXCC or other awards without an original signature from the originating
station or his/her QSL manager.  Never have been.  That dates back long
before the advent of the personal computer... I can recall this very same
discussion going on in the early days of SSTV and heat-transfer-paper
Facsimile.

This has been brought up here before... you are offering the same service as
eQSL, with the very slight technical difference that the originating station
is generating the graphic file that is being exchanged, rather than a log
upload that their service uses to generate a graphic file.  As such, your
service, unfortunately, has essentially the same issues that eQSL has.  So
why are you surprised that you are being treated exactly the same as eQSL?

You sound like you are taking this very personally.  You shouldn't.  This
was predictable for reasons I've outlined in an earlier email.  A reproduced
card lacking a verification stamp or signature will not normally be
accepted.  It's ALWAYS been this way, going back 30 years prior to Logbook
of the World.  Why are you surprised?

Further:

Your allegation that there is "no" way that a card generated from MyQSL can
be distinguished from one generated in other ways is just that... an
allegation awaiting proof.  I'd be surprised if it held up, but that too
awaits proof.

Instead -- you invite amateurs to use your service and then KNOWINGLY submit
cards that do not meet the ARRL's standard.  You invite other amateurs to
perpetuate fraud.  If and when discovered, at the very least it may cause
those amateur's to have those submitted cards rejected, which will cost them
time and money.  At worst, it may cause someone to be disqualified from the
ARRL's awards program for trying to knowingly submit fradulent cards.

Why?

Look -- you don't want to participate in the ARRL's awards, that's just
fine.  That's your business.  No one is forced to.  But to invite people to
knowingly submit cards that, if and when detected, to the League's awards
programs... that is very wrong on many levels.  It makes one wonder about
the integrity and ethics of someone who would do such a thing.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:dx-qsl-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of w4sco at sco-inc.org
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 12:23 PM
To: dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Dx-qsl] (no subject)


The ARRL DXCC program has said that they will not accept qsl cards
exchanged via my New MyQsl service ... IF they know that is how a card
was exchanged. But since there is NO way to prove that a qsl card was
exchanged via the MyQsl service they are just trying to scare hams away
from using MyQsl so you will use their LOTW program which does not
provide for exchanging real cards (just points).


The CQ Magazine Awards program is considering accepting cards exchanged
via MyQsl.


If I had some way to track cards exhanged via my serice i may offer my
own awards program (in the future).


Try the MyQsl service. Nothing says that you can not still spend $$ in
postage and wait months or even years for your traditional qsl cards.
But in the meantime ... while you are waiting you can have a card thru
MyQsl and be getting awards from many many organizations (with the
possible exception of the ARRL).


Les W4SCO
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