But- thanks guys for a major effort now when is someone going to put in a real effort for VU4/7 ? One that I can at least hear? \ Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all DX 2-6 years each. Your kidding right? Man, thats cold!! 73