[Dx-qsl] arrl.net/arrl.org mail forwarding/delivery problems
Kenji Rikitake JJ1BDX
jj1bdx at arrl.net
Tue Oct 25 00:17:26 EDT 2005
I have confirmed that yahoo.co.jp (an Internet provider of major mailing
list and many other services) to arrl.net accounts have been disrupted
for recent few days. I guess some other troubles have been happening on
the arrl.net/arrl.org mail accounts.
73
// Kenji Rikitake, JJ1BDX(/3)
In the message <6.2.0.14.2.20051021233624.031092e0 at mail.alltel.net>
dated Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 11:47:06PM -0400,
Phil Florig <W9IXX at arrl.net> writes:
> I had some recent questions on QSL card submission to the
> ARRL buro and as noted below they have had some problems
> with the e-mail service to DXCC at arrl.org.
> If you have submitted something via e-mail in the last 6wks
> or so and have not got an answer best to resubmit. Bill and
> his staff are very good on responding.
>
> I had some questions on the proper way to submit cards to the
> DXCC desk and hope you find some answers to your questions
> in the discussion below. Bill did an excellent job in answering
> and commenting on the proceedures.
>
> Passed on for information purposes and hope this helps
> someone.
>
> Tnx agn Bill for your answers and comments.
>
> 73 Phil W9IXX
>
>
> >Subject: RE: Questions on DXCC submissions
> >Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:44:43 -0400
> >From: "Moore, Bill, NC1L" <nc1l at arrl.org>
> >To: "Phil Florig" <W9IXX at arrl.net>
> >X-Scanned-By: IEEE UCE Filtering Service (uce . ieee . org) on
> >140.98.193.227
> >
> >Hi Phil:
> >
> >Yes, and I am almost afraid to venture a guess as to how many message I
> >have missed over the last 6 weeks or so....
> >
> >Please scroll down and I will reply to each item shown...
> >
> >
> >----------
> >From: Phil Florig [mailto:W9IXX at arrl.net]
> >Sent: Fri 10/21/2005 7:29 PM
> >To: DXCC
> >Subject: Fwd: Questions on DXCC submissions
> >
> >Hi Bill/staff,
> >
> >I kinda thought that something was amiss as you generally
> >answer promptly to inquiries.
> >
> >Read that you were having some kind of problem. So here is
> >the email agn..
> >
> >Tnx agn,
> >73 Phil W9IXX
> >PS: One of the persons that was asking has since done an abbreviated
> >field check.
> >
> >
> >>Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:49:41 -0400
> >>To: dxcc at arrl.org
> >>From: Phil Florig <W9IXX at arrl.net>
> >>Subject: Fwd: Questions on DXCC submissions
> >>
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>Sent this a little while back and have not heard back from
> >>you on this.
> >>
> >>Would appreciate your comments/answers for submission.
> >>
> >>Thank you.
> >>
> >>73
> >>Phil W9IXX
> >>
> >>>Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 11:40:00 -0400
> >>>To: dxcc at arrl.org
> >>>From: Phil Florig <W9IXX at arrl.net>
> >>>Subject: Questions on DXCC submissions
> >>>Cc: pflorig at ieee.org
> >>>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>>I have been asked some of these questions at hamfests and club meeting as
> >>>I was a card sorter for the "W9I's" when I was in Chicago area with
> >NIDXA.
> >>>Also at a recent hamfest one fellow tried to get field checking done and
> >>>I didn't anything wrong with his listing but got turned down as not in
> >the
> >>>right sort order. Think it had to do with the multiple contacts listing.
> >>>
> >>>Note from ARRL website "DXCC Record Sheet" form:
> >>>
> >>> Note: Cards may be submitted directly to ARRL or checked by a
> >>> DXCC Card
> >>> Checker. If cards are sent direct to ARRL, it is not necessary to
> >>> fill
> >>> out this form. This form must be completed if a Card Checker
> >>> checks the
> >>> application. In either case, the cards or listed credits must be
> >>> sorted
> >>> first by band then by mode. If you fill out the form, supply all
> >>> information as requested. Be sure to use the Entity name, not just
> >>> the
> >>> prefix. Cards indicating multiple contacts must be placed
> >>> together. If
> >>> cards with multiple credits are submitted direct to ARRL, a
> >>> notation must
> >>> be made on each card indicating which credits are to be entered.
> >>> If no
> >>> indication is made on a card, all credits will be entered into
> >your
> >>> record.
> >>>
> >>>In reference to this have questions that have been asked of me.
> >>>
> >>>RE: QSL card FIELD checking "DXCC Record Sheet"
> >>>
> >>>1. Indicates cards/listed credits sort order is band then mode. (single
> >>>qso/card)
> >>> a.) There is no reference to country order, so can we list in any
> >order
> >>> of country as long as cards are band first and then mode sort
> >>> within each band?
> >
> >REPLY: As long as cards are band first then mode within band, further
> >breakdowns are not needed.
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>> b.) On this listing can we list the bands in any order?
> >>> EX: 10mtr then 20mtr then 80mtr then 40mtr
> >
> >REPLY: Yes, the order of the bands is not important just that each band
> >and mode be together.
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>> c.) Within the band listing can we list the modes in
> >>> any order?
> >
> >REPLY: No, once you sort by band, then sort by mode, for instance keep 20
> >Phone, then 20 CW, then 20 RTTY etc.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>2. Indicates multiple contacts placed together (multiple qsos/card)
> >>> a.) With multiple qsos assume there would be NO sort order?
> >
> >REPLY: Correct
> >>>
> >>> b.) How do we list the multiple qso cards on the "DXCC Record Sheet"?
> >
> >REPLY: Basically, just as they appear on the card
> >>>
> >>> c.) Where do we list the multiple qso cards on the "DXCC Record
> >Sheet"
> >>> sheet. Meaning at the start, anywhere, or end of the sheet
> >where the
> >>> single band entry listings are.
> >>> EX: 10mtr band listing group
> >>> 20mtr band listing group
> >>> 15mtr band listing group
> >>> multiple qso listing group
> >>> 80mtr band listing group
> >>> etc.
> >
> >REPLY: It would be best either at the beginning or at the end. I would not
> >set them in a group withing the other listings.
> >>>
> >>> d.) If multiple qso card but are only listing one qso mode, which
> >group
> >>> should this card go in? EX: If one qso and for SSB and was on
> >10mtrs
> >>> and the card is for SSB credit where to put it?
> >
> >REPLY: If you only want one QSO than you can place it within the band/mode
> >you are requesting. BUT, it is important that you place a post-it type
> >note on the card to indicate the one QSO to enter.
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>>3. If the logging programs put out a list is that also acceptable for
> >>>submission
> >>> and is there a standard among the different programs? I did not see
> >any
> >>> standard format in the ones I saw.
> >
> >REPLY: Some of the logging programers have contacted me and we discussed
> >the required format. As long as they follow our requirements we have no
> >problem with their reports. But, if they do not match our format we cannot
> >accept them.
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>>4. I believe that for sending to HQ would follow the same type sort order
> >>>as above.
> >
> >REPLY: I think here you mean if someone sends cards and not a field
> >checked application? Yes, the sort order is the main requirement
> >regardless of the type of submission
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>>5. May I pass along your answers to this?
> >
> >REPLY: Yes, absolutely. While many do follow these guidelines many do not.
> >I'll discuss the reason for this below...
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>>I checked the ARRL website under DXCC section and FAQ's and did not see
> >>>any particular answers there. I believe that if these questions get
> >asked
> >>>by the general members that needs to be explained somewhere.
> >>>If there is info on this somewhere that I missed, I apologize for
> >>>submitting and please point me in the right direction for the answers.
> >
> >REPLY: Please check there as I do cover this in some detail.
> >>>
> >>>If there is a guide that the field checkers use, maybe post it so the
> >>>members know how to list and/or send in. Also if there were a "sample"
> >>>form showing these instances may help.
> >
> >REPLY: When they are nominated and are sent the open-book test, they are
> >given a a guideline booklet that the test is based on. Card checking
> >guidelines are covered in detail but they are advised that the rules, the
> >FAQs, the guidelines etc are all part of what they must read and become
> >familiar with.
> >
> >
> >
> >Now, why the sort order.....
> >
> >DXCC data entry is done in a FoxPro database. If you are familiar with
> >databases you'll understand. We are set up that when we enter something
> >the entry is retained on screen and the next card is basically
> >overwritten. When the bands and modes are sorted properly the data entry
> >people do not have to change all of these fields with each card. When
> >entering, the callsign field changes with each entry as well as the date.
> >But, the bands and modes may be the same so they can type the callsign and
> >date then enter this entry not having to re-type the band and mode each
> >time. When they get to the next band they make that change and the entry
> >is retained until the next change. So, you can see that when properly
> >sorted it takes almost half the time than if they were sorted anyway else.
> >If someone submits cards alphanumerically by callsign each field has to be
> >changed each time and it takes longer to process. While a few cards out of
> >order may not matter, but think of those 1500-2000 cards submissions we
> >process. (I actually have returned applications to be properly sorted).
> >
> >The manual data entry is the most time comsuming and costly part of the
> >whole process and anything applicants do to work with us and sort their
> >cards properly goes a long way to speeding up the process thereby allowing
> >quicker processing time and helping reduce costs.
> >
> >73 and please let me know if I can help further
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Bill Moore NC1L
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>>Tnx for reading,
> >>>73 Phil W9IXX
> >>>
> >>>
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