I have found it was via w9gbc a buncha years back and an extensive search of the net has found nada......even the call w9gbc is avail. .....probably now a SK <A HREF="http://webferret.search.com/click?wf,w9gbc,,freeweb.pdq.net%2Fsattrack%2 Fw9g_1x3.htm,,fastsearch">WebFerret Results</A> 73, Mike W2GR