[Dx-qsl] YI9OM QSO B4

Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:58:26 -0700

Mike:
One thing that may have happened is he copied the "other" call wrong. W3GR
may have called him and he logged it as W2GR. I very rarely question a NIL
(luckily I have not had too many!) but the only one I can remember was a
German Manager. He candidly admitted they had a W9DM (instead of my W�DM)
for that time, date & freq. and sent me a QSL. My DX CW is computer
generated but stuff happens! Hope you can get it worked out! YI9OM is a good
one and I do have him confirmed!
GL & & 73,  Don W�DM

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>    1. Re: VK9KMT (Carl Smidt)
>    2. Re: VK9KMT (Carl Smidt)
>    3. Re: Dilema: YI9OM (Steve Litwins)
>    4. Re: Dilema: YI9OM (John J Dize)
>    5. Re: Disappointed (Steve Daniel)
>    6. A moldy oldie -- VK9ZR (Mark Alan Behrens)
>    7. Re: Disappointed (rjavits)
>    8. Re: A moldy oldie -- VK9ZR ([email protected])
>    9. Re: IRC question (Steven Wheatley KU9C)
>   10. Re: IRC question (Arthur Nelson)
>   11. Re: A moldy oldie -- VK9ZR (PY2YP)
>   12. Re: IRC question (Carl Smidt)
>   13. Re: Disappointed (Bob N7CZ DN47im)
>   14. Re: Disappointed (Ronald Loneker Sr. KA2BZS)
>   15. Re: IRC question (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
>   16. Re: A moldy oldie -- VK9ZR (Buzz Jehle)
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> Message: 1
> From: "Carl Smidt" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] VK9KMT
> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 19:25:51 -0400
> Reply-To: [email protected]
>
> Guess I must have been asleep on that one Will. Thanks a lot.
>
> 73,   Carl    VE9OV
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 4:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] VK9KMT
>
>
> > Hi, Carl--
> >  the call is actually VK0KMT from Davis Base.  QSL via VK4KMT: Mark
Tell,
> 44
> > Corowa St, Wavell Heights, QLD 4012, Australia.  He gets back home this
> month
> > (Feb.)
> > 73, Will WC6DX
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> Message: 2
> From: "Carl Smidt" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] VK9KMT
> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 19:26:48 -0400
> Reply-To: [email protected]
>
> Oooops! Don't know how I made that mistake Dave, if I remember correctly
he
> was 'loud and clear'. Mark, Nov. 14th, 2001 on 15M. Old age I guess  :>)
> Thanks for the info.
>
> 73,   Carl    VE9OV
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Thorne" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 5:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] VK9KMT
>
>
> > CARL......Shud read VK0KMT  Q/VK4KMT
> > Dave/VE3LDT
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Carl Smidt" <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 3:14 PM
> > Subject: [Dx-qsl] VK9KMT
> >
> >
> > > Anyone know the QSL route for this one? Special call from Antarctica.
> > Thanks
> > > for any help.
> > >
> > > 73,   Carl   VE9OV
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> Message: 3
> From: "Steve Litwins" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] Dilema: YI9OM
> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 18:07:47 -0600
> Reply-To: [email protected]
>
> Hi Mike;
> First...good going on getting the YI.  U have to send a qsl request to
find
> out abt what happened if u think wkg him agn will produce the same
results.
> Exlain in an attached note what happened.  Might be a pain in the neck,
but
> usually will give pretty good results if u explain.  Happened to me
several
> times, on good ones too.  Go for it Mike...nothing ventured
etc...gl...73/dx
> steve, k8wk
> ****************
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected]
> <[email protected]>
> Date: Saturday, February 16, 2002 5:01 PM
> Subject: [Dx-qsl] Dilema: YI9OM
>
>
> >I just had a first.....while tuning thru 20m I happened to stumble upon
my
> >#310....YI9OM and when I got him simplex thru the pile He sent QSO
> B4!......I
> >almost fell outta the chair......so I hit him agn abt 10 minutes later
cuz
> I
> >thought him or I must have copied the call wrong...and sure enuff...QSO
> >B4.....AGN!....
> >
> >Well I have not had this happen to me before and wondering what to do in
a
> >case like this....Theoretically I worked him twice but technically I
guess
> >not at all....so what to do in this situation?...Punt?.......or am I just
> >SOL?.....I have not even heard YI9 on the air b4......maybe this dude was
a
> >slim?....
> >
> >Kinda took the fun outta playing in the contest if ya know what I
mean....
> >
> >73
> >
> >Mike W2GR
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> Message: 4
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 19:28:31 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] Dilema: YI9OM
> From: John J Dize <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: [email protected]
>
> I thought at first it was a SLIM myself.I didnt see anything about YI9OM
> being on the air and then bang...there he was.I worked him too.We will
> see.He had a big pileup,Ill say that.Drew a big crowd if nothing else.He
> has a qsl manager,maybe email him.Good luck Mike    73  John W3BJ
>
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>
> Message: 5
> From: "Steve Daniel" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] Disappointed
> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 18:37:41 -0600
> Reply-To: [email protected]
>
> Steve and Kevin,
>     I am surprized by the number of U.S. hams who send a direct card with
no
> sase. I frequently receive these after the NAQP or one of the 160 tests.
In
> the past I just trashed them but for the last couple of years have
relented
> and sent, direct, a card. As you know, the bureau isn't an option for
> domestic cards. I don't know why anyone would send a card, requesting a
> reply, and not have the courtesy to include and sase. Just my two cents
> worth. Steve, NN4T.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steven Wheatley KU9C" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 1:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] Disappointed
>
>
> > Hi Kevin,
> >
> > You might suggest to your friend that he/she should respond to these
cards
> via the bureau.  I am a FIRM believer that every QSL should be answered in
> kind, but if the SASE isn't included with the card, or insufficient
postage,
> etc., it should be answered, but using the bureau system.
> >
> > I'm surprised, however, that the number of folks you encountered without
a
> SASE.  What may be at issue here is that it's known that your buddy
answers
> without a SASE, at least the first time.  I SUREHLY HOPE folks are not
> taking advantage of this generousity.
> >
> > Sadly, even a bureau response to these will cost your friend a small
> amount.  However, if the DX stations are rare enough, there should be
enough
> 'extra' to cover this expense.....maybe not with printing expensive
> cards...but there should be a work-around.
> >
> > 73
> > Steve KU9C
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------
> > Steve Wheatley KU9C
> > PO Box 5953
> > Parsippany NJ  07054-6953
> > U.S.A.
> >
> > email:  [email protected]
> > http://www.ku9c.com/
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 19:56:40 -0500
> From: "Mark Alan Behrens" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Dx-qsl] A moldy oldie -- VK9ZR
> Reply-To: [email protected]
>
> I  was looking through an old log and noticed a callsign I didn't
> recognize -- VK9ZR.  I worked
>  it on May 11, 1982 (under my old callsign).  At the time I didn't know
> what it was.  I did a
>  quick web search and discovered it was Mellish Reef.
>
>  Does anyone know who the QSL manager was/is?  And an e-mail address
> would be great!
>
>  TNX & 73,
>
>  Mark W4GP
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 20:16:27 -0500
> From: rjavits <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] Disappointed
> To: [email protected]
> Reply-To: [email protected]
>
> When it comes to domestic US contacts, I figure my card is usually as
> important as "his" card.  Except for the unusual ones, like Montana or
> Alaska and a few others, I usually mail my cards as postcards, and hope
that
> the other fellow will do the same.
>
> Yes, after a contest, that can be a bunch of cards, but if I can afford to
> send them out, then I figure most hams, with the new FT-whatevers, and the
> stacked beams and so on can afford to send one back.  If they can't, tough
> on me.
>
> I'm not a DXCC-serious DX'er, so all my cards go via Bureau, and if and
when
> a card returns by the same route, I'll be delighted. I have sent a few GS
> and return envelopes to unusual DX where I really wanted the card.  And I
> always SASE to special events when I want a certificate.
>
> That's my answer to the problem...  works for me, but not for all.
>
>                   73        bob    wb2aiu
>
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> Message: 8
> From: [email protected]
> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 20:23:16 EST
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] A moldy oldie -- VK9ZR
> To: [email protected]
> Reply-To: [email protected]
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> My cards from VK9ZR indicate that Harry,VK2BJL was the manager.
>
>      Jim,KO3Q
>
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>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 20:31:10 -0500
> From: "Steven Wheatley KU9C" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] IRC question
> Reply-To: [email protected]
>
> Just wrote an extensive article on this in DX Magazine, but boiling it
down, the IRC should be
>
> the 'old ones' (green ones issued since 1975) or the VERY new ones (issued
since 1/1/02, bigger, bar code, expiration date, etc.
>
> they should be airmail (surface are good, but you may require more than
one in countries that do have foreign surface rates (the USA does not, but
some do)
>
> they should be stamped in the lower left box.  some countries have trouble
if not stamped there...even though the box indicates a stamp is 'optional'
>
> IRCs are increasingly becoming a headache....the UPU has stated that the
'old ones' are good 'indefinitely'.  However, there is a lot of confusion ,
and the Post Office Clerks around the world do not sell a lot of them....so,
often time its caveat emptor on them....
>
> I've been selling the ones as listed above for $1.00 each....and so far no
one has had any problems...and I've only seen a few of the new ones in the
mess of mail i get....in fact, many old ones have come in postmarked since
1/1/02
>
> 73
>
> ---------------------------
> Steve Wheatley KU9C
> PO Box 5953
> Parsippany NJ  07054-6953
> U.S.A.
>
> email:  [email protected]
> http://www.ku9c.com/
>
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: Arthur Nelson <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: [email protected]
> Date: 16 Feb 2002 15:07:37 -0800
>
> >I have a question for the experts...what constitutes a "bad" or "old"
irc? Several of us buy surplus ones from managers and im sure most of us
want to make sure only the good ones get used. Thanks for the lesson!
> >
> >
> >Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping!
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> Message: 10
> Date: 16 Feb 2002 17:43:24 -0800
> To: [email protected]
> From: Arthur Nelson <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] IRC question
> Reply-To: [email protected]
>
> On Sat, 16 February 2002, "Steven Wheatley KU9C" wrote:
>
> >
> > Just wrote an extensive article on this in DX Magazine, but boiling it
down, the IRC should be
>
> Thanks for the info Steve...that helps a lot i was curious since i got a
card back from a gentleman in Wales that said that the irc had expired and
it was one of the surplus irc's that i sent...i guess its truly up to the
individual postal system if its good or not.
>
>
> Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping!
> http://www.shopping.altavista.com
>
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>
> Message: 11
> From: "PY2YP" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 00:10:00 -0200
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] A moldy oldie -- VK9ZR
> Reply-To: [email protected]
>
> On 16 Feb 2002 at 19:56, Mark Alan Behrens wrote:
>
> | I  was looking through an old log and noticed a callsign I
> | didn't recognize -- VK9ZR.  I worked
> |  it on May 11, 1982 (under my old callsign).  At the time I
> |  didn't know
> | what it was.  I did a
> |  quick web search and discovered it was Mellish Reef.
> |
> |  Does anyone know who the QSL manager was/is?  And an e-mail
> |  address
> | would be great!
>
> |  TNX & 73,
> |
> |  Mark W4GP
> | Please help QSL.NET . Send your donation now.
> |
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> The manager was VK2BJL, however, he passed away sometime ago.
>
> --
> 73 DX de PY2YP - Cesar
> http://www.cwsp.org.br
> mailto:[email protected]
>
>
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>
> Message: 12
> From: "Carl Smidt" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] IRC question
> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 22:12:40 -0400
> Reply-To: [email protected]
>
> It really should be obvious to any Postal Clerk in any country, or anyone
> else for that matter, that an IRC is like money or a postage stamp [or
> Canadian Tire money :>) ]. It has actual monetary value and it would be
> unthinkable and certainly unethical for any country NOT to accept an IRC
at
> face value indefinitely, much like an old stamp or old paper currency.
>
> 73,   Carl   VE9OV
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur Nelson" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 9:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] IRC question
>
>
> > On Sat, 16 February 2002, "Steven Wheatley KU9C" wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Just wrote an extensive article on this in DX Magazine, but boiling it
> down, the IRC should be
> >
> > Thanks for the info Steve...that helps a lot i was curious since i got a
> card back from a gentleman in Wales that said that the irc had expired and
> it was one of the surplus irc's that i sent...i guess its truly up to the
> individual postal system if its good or not.
> >
> >
> > Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping!
> > http://www.shopping.altavista.com
> > Please help QSL.NET . Send your donation now.
> >
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 13
> From: "Bob N7CZ DN47im" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] Disappointed
> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 19:27:48 -0700
> Reply-To: [email protected]
>
> We active hams in Montana really do appreciate your SASE! Please never
doubt
> that. We are #1 in the country for people working 2 Jobs to make ends
meet.
> Now having said that. I QSL 100%.  However, I NEVER send my card POST CARD
> style! I have received more TRASH because cards are sent that way. If I
> can't read the contact details, or the call sign, then I won't confirm the
> contact. No rotating doors for QSLs here. If my card is worth sending for,
> then the courtesy would be for you to AT LEAST put your card in an
envelope
> so it gets to me in good shape. It is the least you one can to insure at
> least the card is in decent shape when it arrives.
>
> 73
> Bob N7CZ
> Great Falls, Montana, yes, I said Montana....
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rjavits" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 6:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] Disappointed
>
>
> > When it comes to domestic US contacts, I figure my card is usually as
> > important as "his" card.  Except for the unusual ones, like Montana or
> > Alaska and a few others, I usually mail my cards as postcards, and hope
> that
> > the other fellow will do the same.
> >
> > Yes, after a contest, that can be a bunch of cards, but if I can afford
to
> > send them out, then I figure most hams, with the new FT-whatevers, and
the
> > stacked beams and so on can afford to send one back.  If they can't,
tough
> > on me.
> >
> > I'm not a DXCC-serious DX'er, so all my cards go via Bureau, and if and
> when
> > a card returns by the same route, I'll be delighted. I have sent a few
GS
> > and return envelopes to unusual DX where I really wanted the card.  And
I
> > always SASE to special events when I want a certificate.
> >
> > That's my answer to the problem...  works for me, but not for all.
> >
> >                   73        bob    wb2aiu
> >
> >
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> Message: 14
> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 21:35:12 -0500
> From: "Ronald Loneker Sr. KA2BZS" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] Disappointed
> Reply-To: [email protected]
>
>
>
> Bob N7CZ DN47im wrote:
>
> > Great Falls, Montana, yes, I said Montana....
> >
>
> Hi Bob.. couldn't help but see your statement above... I read where some
jerk
> almost killed a woman because she said "New Jersey" yesterday..
> --
> Ron Loneker Sr.  KA2BZS
> http://www.cwforever.com
> NJDXA - #1DXCC - 160m DXCC
> JUST SEND IT!....
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 15
> From: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] IRC question
> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 22:57:20 -0500
> Reply-To: [email protected]
>
> Carl,
>
> You're absolutely right.  Unfortunately, some of the bureaucrats and
> politicians at some postal agencies around the world have chosen to
disagree
> with you and are now refusing the old IRC's.
>
> 73
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Carl Smidt <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 9:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] IRC question
>
>
> It really should be obvious to any Postal Clerk in any country, or anyone
> else for that matter, that an IRC is like money or a postage stamp [or
> Canadian Tire money :>) ]. It has actual monetary value and it would be
> unthinkable and certainly unethical for any country NOT to accept an IRC
at
> face value indefinitely, much like an old stamp or old paper currency.
>
> 73,   Carl   VE9OV
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur Nelson" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 9:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] IRC question
>
>
> > On Sat, 16 February 2002, "Steven Wheatley KU9C" wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Just wrote an extensive article on this in DX Magazine, but boiling it
> down, the IRC should be
> >
> > Thanks for the info Steve...that helps a lot i was curious since i got a
> card back from a gentleman in Wales that said that the irc had expired and
> it was one of the surplus irc's that i sent...i guess its truly up to the
> individual postal system if its good or not.
> >
> >
> > Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping!
> > http://www.shopping.altavista.com
> > Please help QSL.NET . Send your donation now.
> >
>
>
>
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> Message: 16
> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 05:07:23 +0000
> From: Buzz Jehle <[email protected]>
> Organization: Online Resources
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] A moldy oldie -- VK9ZR
> Reply-To: [email protected]
>
> try vk2rq, Gl 73 Buzz N5UR
>
> Mark Alan Behrens wrote:
>
> >I  was looking through an old log and noticed a callsign I didn't
> >recognize -- VK9ZR.  I worked
> > it on May 11, 1982 (under my old callsign).  At the time I didn't know
> >what it was.  I did a
> > quick web search and discovered it was Mellish Reef.
> >
> > Does anyone know who the QSL manager was/is?  And an e-mail address
> >would be great!
> >
> > TNX & 73,
> >
> > Mark W4GP
> >Please help QSL.NET . Send your donation now.
> >
>
>
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