[Dx-qsl] Re: DX-QSL digest, QSL.NET
Donald McCoy
[email protected]
Sun Aug 18 01:59:00 2002
Dave:
Thanks for taking time to remind everyone that Al incurs a lot of expenses
to say nothing of time involved to keep QSL.NET running.
I did contribute $15. 73, Don W�DM
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> 1. GS vs IRCs in mail to Russia ([email protected])
> 2. Re: GS vs IRCs in mail to Russia (John Warren)
> 3. Mailings from within Europe to European/Russian Destinations (Vince)
> 4. JS2LHJ (Don Novy)
> 5. Help now or lose it (Dave Haney)
> 6. Re: Help now or lose it (Carl Smidt)
> 7. QSL requests via KU9C (Steven Wheatley KU9C)
> 8. Where to donate (Dave Haney)
> 9. Re: [DX-NEWS] QSL requests via KU9C (Steven Wheatley KU9C)
> 10. Re: Help now or lose it (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
> 11. Re: 7O/OH2YY (Jeffrey Rymer)
> 12. RE: [DX] Re: [DX-NEWS] QSL requests via KU9C (Wendell Wyly W5FL)
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> Message: 1
> From: [email protected]
> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 09:45:56 EDT
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Dx-qsl] GS vs IRCs in mail to Russia
>
> I am sure I have seen something on this subject but don't recall where.
>
> I have a lot of cards outstanding to Russia. I sent a couple of GS in all
> cases.
>
> Would I have done better to send IRC s to Russia instead of GS to assure a
> return of my cards. All of these have been sent to IOTA expeditions in
2002,
> 2001 and 2000.
>
> I now have a few more to mail but will wait until I get the expert opinion
> from this reflector group on what best to send for a better and faster
rate
> of return.
>
> Many tnx
> Al
> W4ABW
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 09:29:18 -0600
> To: [email protected]
> From: John Warren <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Dx-qsl] Re: GS vs IRCs in mail to Russia
>
> Al W4ABW wrote:
>
> >I am sure I have seen something on this subject but don't recall where.
> >I have a lot of cards outstanding to Russia. I sent a couple of GS in all
> >cases. Would I have done better to send IRCs to Russia instead of GS
> >to assure a return of my cards. All of these have been sent to IOTA
> >expeditions in 2002,
> >2001 and 2000.
>
> Al,
>
> I expressed the following opinion once before. Inevitably, some
> people agreed with me, some didn't!
>
> I don't waste time with IRCs. Russians LOVE green stamps. The issue
> is how to maximize the chances of green stamps getting to the DX. I
> do the following:
>
> - Hide them inside the mailing. Consider attaching them to something with
a
> small piece of scotch tape, so they can't shake around
>
> - Use no callsigns on either envelope
>
> - Make it look like boring business mail. Use a computer-prepared address
> label, and get the USPO to put on a metered stamp
>
> - Russian airmail envelopes are EXTREMELY thin and light. I think they
need
> those to get the cheapest rate. So a return self-adhesive
> address label is
> an option to a return U.S. airmail envelope.
>
> GL! John, NT5C.
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 10:25:48 -0400
> From: Vince <[email protected]>
> Organization: ars OPR - WA2RSX
> To: DX QSL Reflector <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Dx-qsl] Mailings from within Europe to European/Russian
Destinations
>
>
> Hello Group:
>
> I am planning to be inside Europe within a few weeks and am wondering
> about rules/requirements for mailing hand carried QSLs while I am there.
> In general, I will be mailing to IARU DX QSL bureau addresses.
>
> Is there any strict requirement for air mail envelopes to be used when
> mailing from Italy to other European countries or to Russia ? I wonder
> if I must use an air mail envelope obtained within Italy, for example ?
> If I were mailing from here in the US, I would not bother with any
> airmail envelope.
>
> Thanks for any information.
>
> 73 and Have Fun,
> de ~ Vince ~
> WA2RSX IOTA NA-026
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 4
> Date: 14 Aug 2002 08:22:51 -0700
> From: "Don Novy" <[email protected]>
> To: dx-qsl <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Dx-qsl] JS2LHJ
>
> Does anyone have a direct address or an email address
> for JS2LHJ?
>
> I'm trying to confirm a QSO from 1999 after no response
> to a bureau request.
>
> 73,
> Don
> WB9NMN
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> From: "Dave Haney" <[email protected]>
> To: "hamma reflector" <[email protected]>,
> "sw-ita reflector" <[email protected]>,
> "patcomm reflector" <[email protected]>,
> "PARK reflector" <[email protected]>,
> "paham refelctor" <[email protected]>,
> "hamfest reflector" <[email protected]>,
> "fox_tango reflector" <[email protected]>,
> "dx-qsl reflector" <[email protected]>,
> "ares-races reflector" <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:16:37 -0400
> Subject: [Dx-qsl] Help now or lose it
>
> Folks,
> I really hate to keep beating the same dead horse, but I was truly
> stunned to learn a pitiful 500 hams (out of 200,000 US QSL.NET users) have
> contributed to help keep QSL.NET viable with approximately $7,000 in
> donations. That means that 99.75 %.of our subscribed have contributed
> nothing, zilch, nada....
>
> I am not going to ask for more of you to do the right thing, but
> consider the words in an old Joni Mitchell song: "You don't know what
you've
> got till it's gone." I know hams are traditionally thrifty, but sending a
> few bucks to keep something as valuable as QSL.NET is a pretty good
> investment.
>
> Don't think someone else is going to pay your share; they are busy
thinking
> the same thing about you.
>
> 73
> Dave Haney
> W3SJ
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> From: "Carl Smidt" <[email protected]>
> To: "Dave Haney" <[email protected]>,
> "hamma reflector" <[email protected]>,
> "sw-ita reflector" <[email protected]>,
> "patcomm reflector" <[email protected]>,
> "PARK reflector" <[email protected]>,
> "paham refelctor" <[email protected]>,
> "hamfest reflector" <[email protected]>,
> "fox_tango reflector" <[email protected]>,
> "dx-qsl reflector" <[email protected]>,
> "ares-races reflector" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] Help now or lose it
> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:31:15 -0300
>
> To All,
>
> I donated $50.00 US ($80.00 Cnd), how about YOU!=20
>
> For you Dave Haney, every time you send something like this out, please =
> make it a little more easy to donate, include the, one click, URL!!!!
>
> 73, Carl VE9OV
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: Dave Haney=20
> To: hamma reflector ; sw-ita reflector ; patcomm reflector ; PARK =
> reflector ; paham refelctor ; hamfest reflector ; fox_tango reflector ; =
> dx-qsl reflector ; ares-races reflector=20
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 1:16 PM
> Subject: [Dx-qsl] Help now or lose it
>
>
> Folks,
> I really hate to keep beating the same dead horse, but I was truly
> stunned to learn a pitiful 500 hams (out of 200,000 US QSL.NET users) =
> have
> contributed to help keep QSL.NET viable with approximately $7,000 in
> donations. That means that 99.75 %.of our subscribed have contributed
> nothing, zilch, nada....
>
> I am not going to ask for more of you to do the right thing, but
> consider the words in an old Joni Mitchell song: "You don't know what =
> you've
> got till it's gone." I know hams are traditionally thrifty, but =
> sending a
> few bucks to keep something as valuable as QSL.NET is a pretty good
> investment.
>
> Don't think someone else is going to pay your share; they are busy =
> thinking
> the same thing about you.
>
> 73
> Dave Haney
> W3SJ
>
>
> Now, more than ever, QSL.NET is in urgent need of your financial =
> support.=20
> Please help QSL.NET by sending a donation now.
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:43:20 -0400
> From: "Steven Wheatley KU9C" <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>,
> <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Dx-qsl] QSL requests via KU9C
>
> Folks,
>
> In an effort to serve you better as a QSL manager, I am requesting that,
going forward, that when you request a QSL via KU9C, please observe the
following with DIRECT qsl card requests:
>
> IF you are in a hurry to get your card back, send ONLY one call per
envelope. I manage over 100 calls, PLEASE do not send more than one call IF
you are in a hurry.
>
> If you are in a hurry to get your card back, please do not request QSL
cards for stations (primarily BQ9P) for which I carry multiple operation
dates). This is essentially the same as asking for multiple call signs in
my process.
>
> I am willing to accept multiple calls per envelope, but please understand
that this will likely delay your card. If you send, for example, PW0T and
YA5T, which many have, do not expect to see your card back in the same time
frame that others that sent ONLY one of those calls. Thus, when you read
the reflector, and someone says "I received PW0T", yours will be delayed.
>
> Note that I will accept bureau cards, bureau requests via email, and QSLs
sent direct without SASE will be replied via bureau. I am currently close
to a year behind in answering these cards....so be very patient.
>
> I regret asking for this help from you, but in light of several very
impatient folks, some who have taken to asking the folks I manage first
rather than emailing me to see status, I've decided to put these requests
into place to help YOU in getting your card. In the last few weeks, I've
had over 300 requests to find the status of ones card. OVER 80% of these
requests were delayed due to the fact that multiple calls were requested.
The time I spend just researching this takes time away from putting stuff in
the mailbox.
>
> Status: I am attempting to catch up with YA5T, and a majority of cards
for QSOs before June have been answered. PW0T cards, I've currently mailed
over 10,000 QSL cards, and roughly 4500 envelopes. At one point there was
some 20,000 plus envelopes at my QTH, so you can see how the progress is
going.
>
> BQ9P has been ordered, and I expect that these cards will go out in
September, although I do have a few weeks of vacation coming up...I will do
my best.
>
> 73
>
>
> ---------------------------
> Steve Wheatley KU9C
> PO Box 31
> Morristown NJ 07963-0031
> U.S.A.
>
> email: [email protected]
> http://www.ku9c.com/
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> From: "Dave Haney" <[email protected]>
> To: "hamma reflector" <[email protected]>,
> "sw-ita reflector" <[email protected]>,
> "patcomm reflector" <[email protected]>,
> "PARK reflector" <[email protected]>,
> "paham refelctor" <[email protected]>,
> "hamfest reflector" <[email protected]>,
> "fox_tango reflector" <[email protected]>,
> "dx-qsl reflector" <[email protected]>,
> "ares-races reflector" <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:48:35 -0400
> Subject: [Dx-qsl] Where to donate
>
> To all:
>
> Sorry I did not include the URL and snail mail info in the earlier post
> (guess I figured you all knew it by now)
>
> URL is: http://www.qsl.net/donations.html
>
> Snail mail to:
>
> You also can snail mail donations to:
>
> QSL.NET,Inc.
> 34087 Old Hickory Road
> Laurel, Delaware 19956
>
> Let's really try to show Al we appreciate what he has given us. He is not
> trying to make a profit on this. I believe he would be amazed just to
break
> even for once. Let's at least make that happen. If we don't, I suspect one
> of two things will happen:
> (1) QSL.NET will just cease to exist or
> (2) QSL.NET will become a pay-for-subscription service
>
> Of course, if we all pitch in and pay our fair share, all will remain as
it
> is---and that's the best option of all !
>
> 73
> Dave
> W3SJ
> .
> .
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:57:00 -0400
> From: "Steven Wheatley KU9C" <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>,
> <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>,
> "ronsue" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Dx-qsl] Re: [DX-NEWS] QSL requests via KU9C
>
> Ron, good point, basically, think of getting 200 - 300 pieces of mail each
day, how would you find it easier to work with. If you are comfortable
putting calls on envelopes, the call is certainly a nice thing (probably
best on the back flap to avoid problems with the postal service scan
machines).
>
> Again, I hate to do this, but it's becoming clear that I need to take
certain measures to help folks get their cards in a timeframe that they want
to receive them!
>
> 73
>
>
> ---------------------------
> Steve Wheatley KU9C
> PO Box 31
> Morristown NJ 07963-0031
> U.S.A.
>
> email: [email protected]
> http://www.ku9c.com/
>
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> Wrom: NNSKVFVWRKJVZCMHVIBGDADRZFS
> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:54:00 -0400
>
> >As the lyrics go "Who could ask for anything more?"
> >
> >Not sure if it helps the process but I even add ATTN:BQ9P, or whatever,
in
> >the lower left corner of the envelope. Please remember the costs
associated
> >with the DXpeditions along with the cost of printing cards, etc.
> >
> >Thanks Steve for a great job.
> >
> >Ron ND5S
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >Wrom: QHYUCDDJBLVLMHAALPTCXLYRWTQTIPWIGYOKSTTZRCLBDXRQ
> >To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 1:43 PM
> >Subject: [DX-NEWS] QSL requests via KU9C
> >
> >
> >> Folks,
> >>
> >> In an effort to serve you better as a QSL manager, I am requesting
that,
> >going forward, that when you request a QSL via KU9C, please observe the
> >following with DIRECT qsl card requests:
> >>
> >> IF you are in a hurry to get your card back, send ONLY one call per
> >envelope. I manage over 100 calls, PLEASE do not send more than one call
IF
> >you are in a hurry.
> >>
> >> If you are in a hurry to get your card back, please do not request QSL
> >cards for stations (primarily BQ9P) for which I carry multiple operation
> >dates). This is essentially the same as asking for multiple call signs
in
> >my process.
> >>
> >> I am willing to accept multiple calls per envelope, but please
understand
> >that this will likely delay your card. If you send, for example, PW0T
and
> >YA5T, which many have, do not expect to see your card back in the same
time
> >frame that others that sent ONLY one of those calls. Thus, when you read
> >the reflector, and someone says "I received PW0T", yours will be delayed.
> >>
> >> Note that I will accept bureau cards, bureau requests via email, and
QSLs
> >sent direct without SASE will be replied via bureau. I am currently
close
> >to a year behind in answering these cards....so be very patient.
> >>
> >> I regret asking for this help from you, but in light of several very
> >impatient folks, some who have taken to asking the folks I manage first
> >rather than emailing me to see status, I've decided to put these requests
> >into place to help YOU in getting your card. In the last few weeks, I've
> >had over 300 requests to find the status of ones card. OVER 80% of these
> >requests were delayed due to the fact that multiple calls were requested.
> >The time I spend just researching this takes time away from putting stuff
in
> >the mailbox.
> >>
> >> Status: I am attempting to catch up with YA5T, and a majority of cards
> >for QSOs before June have been answered. PW0T cards, I've currently
mailed
> >over 10,000 QSL cards, and roughly 4500 envelopes. At one point there
was
> >some 20,000 plus envelopes at my QTH, so you can see how the progress is
> >going.
> >>
> >> BQ9P has been ordered, and I expect that these cards will go out in
> >September, although I do have a few weeks of vacation coming up...I will
do
> >my best.
> >>
> >> 73
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------------------------
> >> Steve Wheatley KU9C
> >> PO Box 31
> >> Morristown NJ 07963-0031
> >> U.S.A.
> >>
> >> email: [email protected]
> >> http://www.ku9c.com/
> >>
> >> -------------------------------------------------------
> >> Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems, etc
> >> DX-NEWS http://njdxa.org/dx-news
> >> DX-CHAT: http://njdxa.org/dx-chat
> >> To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [email protected]
> >> Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net
> >> -------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> From: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <[email protected]>
> To: "DX QSL" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] Help now or lose it
> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 15:54:06 -0400
>
> In the event that the DX QSL Reflector becomes inoperative because of the
> financial difficulties at QSL.NET, I have created an alternative DX QSL
> Reflector over on Yahoo.
>
> The group name is also DXQSL (no space), and the home page can be viewed
at
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxqsl. You should be able to join (if
needed)
> from that page. E-mail address for the reflector is [email protected]
>
> While I sincerely hope that this step proves to be unneccesary (in which
> case I will delete the group), I thought it a good idea to put a backup in
> place while we still have the means to communicate the information.
>
> Incidently, for those who don't know, W4AN is also crying poverty over the
> eHam.net & contesting.com sites and related reflectors, so it is also
> possible that those sites could disappear or radically change soon.
>
> And FWIW, for personal reasons related to another set of classic radio
> reflectors & web sites on his servers, K3TKJ shall be receiving no more
> money out of my pocket. Not all of us who decline to further contribute
are
> cheap, er, thrifty... there are other reasons.
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
> When asked "If you had been in President Clinton's place, would you have
> resigned?",
> Republican Member of the House of Representatives Dick Armey replied:
>
> "If I were in the President's place, I would not have gotten a chance to
> resign. I would be laying in a pool of my own blood, hearing Mrs. Armey
> standing over me saying, "How do I reload this damn thing?"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dave Haney <[email protected]>
> To: hamma reflector <[email protected]>; sw-ita reflector
> <[email protected]>; patcomm reflector <[email protected]>;
PARK
> reflector <[email protected]>; paham refelctor <[email protected]>;
> hamfest reflector <[email protected]>; fox_tango reflector
> <[email protected]>; dx-qsl reflector <[email protected]>;
> ares-races reflector <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 12:16 PM
> Subject: [Dx-qsl] Help now or lose it
>
>
> Folks,
> I really hate to keep beating the same dead horse, but I was truly
> stunned to learn a pitiful 500 hams (out of 200,000 US QSL.NET users) have
> contributed to help keep QSL.NET viable with approximately $7,000 in
> donations. That means that 99.75 %.of our subscribed have contributed
> nothing, zilch, nada....
>
> I am not going to ask for more of you to do the right thing, but
> consider the words in an old Joni Mitchell song: "You don't know what
you've
> got till it's gone." I know hams are traditionally thrifty, but sending a
> few bucks to keep something as valuable as QSL.NET is a pretty good
> investment.
>
> Don't think someone else is going to pay your share; they are busy
thinking
> the same thing about you.
>
> 73
> Dave Haney
> W3SJ
>
>
> Now, more than ever, QSL.NET is in urgent need of your financial support.
> Please help QSL.NET by sending a donation now.
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> From: "Jeffrey Rymer" <[email protected]>
> To: "Bob" <[email protected]>, "dx-qsl" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] 7O/OH2YY
> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:36:54 -0500
>
> ARRL DXCC Desk has not received any paper work for that operation yet so
it
> isn't any good yet for DXCC.. 73 Jeff KE9S
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob" <[email protected]>
> To: "dx-qsl" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 9:19 PM
> Subject: [Dx-qsl] 7O/OH2YY
>
>
> > received 7O/OH2YY #323 on phone today via HC
> > Bob W8GC
> >
> > Now, more than ever, QSL.NET is in urgent need of your financial
support.
> > Please help QSL.NET by sending a donation now.
> >
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 12
> From: "Wendell Wyly W5FL" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>,
> <[email protected]>, "ronsue" <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:40:40 -0500
> Subject: [Dx-qsl] RE: [DX] Re: [DX-NEWS] QSL requests via KU9C
>
> The US Postal Scan Machines DON'T CARE what you put on the envelope IF you
> don't put it in the last two lines of the address block. DO NOT put
> callsigns below the address! The reader scans for a barcode of 5 digits
> (post office), 9 digits (your delivery block), or 11 digits (where you
> live). If there is no barcode, then it reads the zip code and as much of
> the address as possible to put a barcode on the envelope. Mail moves
better
> in the US if you use WORD to put the 9 digit barcode on all US mail or at
> least use ARIAL typeface and print the envelope or label. Unfortunately
> this software will not put the entire 11 digit barcode on for you.
>
> The barcode moves the mail, but if the barcode is less than 11 digits
long,
> the OCR (Optical Character Recognition) attempts to read the address, city
> and state to improve the barcode. Since the zip code and address are
always
> on the last two lines, you can put any name you want on the lines above
this
> or any call, or any attention and the Post Office Readers could care less
> and does not read this information.
>
> New technology is now reading the address to determine if you have moved
and
> filed a change of address so the mail can go directly to you instead of
> going first to where you used to live and then being forwarded.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On
> Behalf Of Steven Wheatley KU9C
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 12:57 PM
> To: [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; [email protected]; ronsue
> Subject: [DX] Re: [DX-NEWS] QSL requests via KU9C
>
>
> Ron, good point, basically, think of getting 200 - 300 pieces of mail each
> day, how would you find it easier to work with. If you are comfortable
> putting calls on envelopes, the call is certainly a nice thing (probably
> best on the back flap to avoid problems with the postal service scan
> machines).
>
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
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