[DSP-10] DSP-10 Digest, Vol 95, Issue 2
Stefano Tancioni
stefano.tancioni at gmail.com
Mon Jan 1 09:26:27 EST 2018
Hi all,
thanks for the info.
I already have a DSPx/DSP board, so I eventually just need a DSP-10 KIT
without the DSPx/DSP board.
Tim (W6MU) and Tats (JA1PWK) how much does it cost (please include shipping
to Italy) ??
Bob (W7PUA) thanks you for the heads up about this new incoming
project...I do not know the ARM DSP features very well, however, 3 years
ago I used a DSP-PIC (dsPIC33EP512MU810) and a Wolfman ADC/DAC audio codec
(WM8731) "to rebuild" the DSPx board. I basically made up a simple 48KHz
16bit DSP-like board and I implemented a very simple USB-LSB RX. the dsPIC
chips are quite simple and they are made up just like a real DSP (separated
RAM and Program memory, one-cycle hardware Multiply and accumulate Integer
op, ecc... ). I will look into it, this new lo w cost chips are really
interesting...
Thank you all and happy new year !
73 Stefano IW0HNB
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> 4. Re: Info about DSP-10 Kits, PCB and Parts (Bob Larkin)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 13:34:01 -0800
> From: "=?utf-8?B?dzZtdUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" <w6mu at comcast.net>
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> I have a complete kit available.
>
> 73
>
> Tim w6mu
>
> Sent from my HTC U11
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Stefano Tancioni" <stefano.tancioni at gmail.com>
> To: <dsp-10 at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [DSP-10] Info about DSP-10 Kits, PCB and Parts
> Date: Sat, Dec 30, 2017 10:17
>
> Dear All,
>
> I'm interested in building my own DSP-10 RTX and I'm wondering if there are
> still some Kits available...Do you know if someone is still selling DSP-10
> KITS ?
> If not, Do you have any suggestions about how to build it with an update
> part list? I have done a quick check on Mouser and many parts are now
> listed as "unavailable and obsolete".
> Thank you
> 73
> Stefano IW0HNB
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2018 02:58:11 +0900
> From: "Tats W. Fuse" <t_fuse at mail.wind.ne.jp>
> To: dsp-10 at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [DSP-10] Info about DSP-10 Kits, PCB and Parts
> Message-ID: <4bc5bd0e-7967-4a87-af22-979c54ef84f3 at mail.wind.ne.jp>
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> Me too ... ? available with DSP unit.
>
> 73???? de???? JA1PWK? /? Tats
>
> On 2017?12?31? 06:34, w6mu at comcast.net wrote:
> > I have a complete kit available.
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Tim w6mu
> >
> > Sent from my HTC U11
> >
> > ----- Reply message -----
> > From: "Stefano Tancioni" <stefano.tancioni at gmail.com>
> > To: <dsp-10 at mailman.qth.net>
> > Subject: [DSP-10] Info about DSP-10 Kits, PCB and Parts
> > Date: Sat, Dec 30, 2017 10:17
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I'm interested in building my own DSP-10 RTX and I'm wondering if there
> are
> > still some Kits available...Do you know if someone is still selling
> DSP-10
> > KITS ?
> > If not, Do you have any suggestions about how to build it with an update
> > part list? I have done a quick check on Mouser and many parts are now
> > listed as "unavailable and obsolete".
> > Thank you
> > 73
> > Stefano IW0HNB
> > ______________________________________________________________
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 13:08:50 -0500
> From: Fred Buecker <tfbiii2002 at gmail.com>
> To: Discussion of DSP-10 2-meter transceiver <dsp-10 at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [DSP-10] Info about DSP-10 Kits, PCB and Parts
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> Does anyone have the updated/modern parts list if we wanted to try to build
> from scratch?
>
> On Dec 31, 2017 12:58 PM, "Tats W. Fuse" <t_fuse at mail.wind.ne.jp> wrote:
>
> > Me too ... available with DSP unit.
> >
> > 73 de JA1PWK / Tats
> >
> > On 2017?12?31? 06:34, w6mu at comcast.net wrote:
> >
> >> I have a complete kit available.
> >>
> >> 73
> >>
> >> Tim w6mu
> >>
> >> Sent from my HTC U11
> >>
> >> ----- Reply message -----
> >> From: "Stefano Tancioni" <stefano.tancioni at gmail.com>
> >> To: <dsp-10 at mailman.qth.net>
> >> Subject: [DSP-10] Info about DSP-10 Kits, PCB and Parts
> >> Date: Sat, Dec 30, 2017 10:17
> >>
> >> Dear All,
> >>
> >> I'm interested in building my own DSP-10 RTX and I'm wondering if there
> >> are
> >> still some Kits available...Do you know if someone is still selling
> DSP-10
> >> KITS ?
> >> If not, Do you have any suggestions about how to build it with an update
> >> part list? I have done a quick check on Mouser and many parts are now
> >> listed as "unavailable and obsolete".
> >> Thank you
> >> 73
> >> Stefano IW0HNB
> >> ______________________________________________________________
> >>
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 12:21:36 -0800
> From: Bob Larkin <boblark at proaxis.com>
> To: dsp-10 at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [DSP-10] Info about DSP-10 Kits, PCB and Parts
> Message-ID: <28547f2c-6b65-137d-c53d-7ee734801ce6 at proaxis.com>
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> Hi All -
>
> Yes, a number of the parts are not available from distribution, and hard
> to find at all. Without making any promises, let me mention some
> ongoing work that might lead to some new life for a DSP-10 like project.
>
> Farhan, VU2ESE, is a skilled RF designer with some DSP experience. He
> is exploring hardware for an updated 2-meter DSP project. I am not sure
> where he is at on this, but it might lead to good things.
>
> One remaining hardware issue is the EZ-Kit/DSPx, and their poor
> availability. To that end, I was steered by KC7WW to PJRC and their
> Teensy products
> https://www.pjrc.com/store/teensy36.html
> The 3.6 runs a ARM Cortex-M4 at 180 MHz and has good DSP capability,
> including 32-bit fixed integers and single-precision floating point. I
> used this to create an Audio Vector Network Analyzer (coming this spring
> in QEX) and that was a pleasant experience. So, I am currently
> exploring using the Teensy 3.6 as a replacement for the EZ-Kit. As part
> of that, I am putting together a control box that would have a small
> graphical touch screen, tuning knob and more of that sort of stuff. It
> is not to replace a PC interface, but rather to allow a subset of the
> capability to be run stand-alone. It would sorta look like an IC-7000.
> More on that, including a link to a schematic, at post #85 on page 4 of
> https://forum.pjrc.com/threads/40590-Teensy-Convolution-SDR-(Software-
> Defined-Radio)
>
> Also check out the interesting DD4WH receiver in that same thread.
>
> The support from PJRC is outstanding, BTW.
>
> We will see where all of this leads.
>
> 73, Bob W7PUA
>
> On 12/31/2017 10:08 AM, Fred Buecker wrote:
> > Does anyone have the updated/modern parts list if we wanted to try to
> build
> > from scratch?
> >
> > On Dec 31, 2017 12:58 PM, "Tats W. Fuse" <t_fuse at mail.wind.ne.jp> wrote:
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 16:37:51 -0800
> From: Bob Larkin <boblark at proaxis.com>
> To: DSP-10 at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [DSP-10] Info about DSP-10 Kits, PCB and Parts
> Message-ID: <10506eea-7959-64f1-8aab-6279f6c24c1b at proaxis.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> Hi All -
>
> Yes, a number of the parts are not available from distribution, and hard
> to find at all. Without making any promises, let me mention some
> ongoing work that might lead to some new life for a DSP-10 like project.
>
> Farhan, VU2ESE, is a skilled RF designer with some DSP experience. He
> is exploring hardware for an updated 2-meter DSP project. I am not sure
> where he is at on this, but it may lead to good things.
>
> One remaining hardware issue is the EZ-Kit/DSPx, and their poor
> availability. To that end, I was steered by KC7WW to PJRC and their
> Teensy products
> https://www.pjrc.com/store/teensy36.html
> The 3.6 runs a ARM Cortex-M4 at 180 MHz and has good DSP capability,
> including 32-bit fixed integers and single-precision floating point. I
> used this to create an Audio Vector Network Analyzer (coming this spring
> in QEX) and that was a pleasant experience. So, I am currently
> exploring using the Teensy 3.6 as a replacement for the EZ-Kit. As part
> of that, I am putting together a control box that would have a small
> graphical touch screen, tuning knob and more of that sort of stuff. It
> is not to replace a PC interface, but rather to allow a subset of the
> capability to be run stand-alone. It would sorta look like an IC-7000.
> More on that, including a link to a schematic, at post #85 on page 4 of
> https://forum.pjrc.com/threads/40590-Teensy-Convolution-SDR-(Software-
> Defined-Radio)
>
> Also check out the interesting DD4WH receiver in that same thread.
>
> The support from PJRC is outstanding, BTW.
>
> We will see where all of this leads.
>
> 73, Bob W7PUA
>
> PS - I hope this isn't posted twice. It is my second try...
>
> On 12/31/2017 10:08 AM, Fred Buecker wrote:
> > Does anyone have the updated/modern parts list if we wanted to try to
> build
> > from scratch?
> >
> > On Dec 31, 2017 12:58 PM, "Tats W. Fuse" <t_fuse at mail.wind.ne.jp>
> wrote:
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 16:06:33 -0800
> From: John McNiel <macw6fcs at gmail.com>
> To: Discussion of DSP-10 2-meter transceiver <dsp-10 at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [DSP-10] Info about DSP-10 Kits, PCB and Parts
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> Stop sending me your funkin e-mails. I didn't subscribe to any email lists
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> Stop all of these emails.
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> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Bob Larkin <boblark at proaxis.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi All -
> >
> > Yes, a number of the parts are not available from distribution, and hard
> > to find at all. Without making any promises, let me mention some
> ongoing
> > work that might lead to some new life for a DSP-10 like project.
> >
> > Farhan, VU2ESE, is a skilled RF designer with some DSP experience. He is
> > exploring hardware for an updated 2-meter DSP project. I am not sure
> where
> > he is at on this, but it might lead to good things.
> >
> > One remaining hardware issue is the EZ-Kit/DSPx, and their poor
> > availability. To that end, I was steered by KC7WW to PJRC and their
> Teensy
> > products
> > https://www.pjrc.com/store/teensy36.html
> > The 3.6 runs a ARM Cortex-M4 at 180 MHz and has good DSP capability,
> > including 32-bit fixed integers and single-precision floating point. I
> > used this to create an Audio Vector Network Analyzer (coming this spring
> in
> > QEX) and that was a pleasant experience. So, I am currently exploring
> > using the Teensy 3.6 as a replacement for the EZ-Kit. As part of that, I
> > am putting together a control box that would have a small graphical touch
> > screen, tuning knob and more of that sort of stuff. It is not to
> replace a
> > PC interface, but rather to allow a subset of the capability to be run
> > stand-alone. It would sorta look like an IC-7000. More on that,
> including
> > a link to a schematic, at post #85 on page 4 of
> > https://forum.pjrc.com/threads/40590-Teensy-Convolution-SDR-
> > (Software-Defined-Radio)
> >
> > Also check out the interesting DD4WH receiver in that same thread.
> >
> > The support from PJRC is outstanding, BTW.
> >
> > We will see where all of this leads.
> >
> > 73, Bob W7PUA
> >
> > On 12/31/2017 10:08 AM, Fred Buecker wrote:
> >
> >> Does anyone have the updated/modern parts list if we wanted to try to
> >> build
> >> from scratch?
> >>
> >> On Dec 31, 2017 12:58 PM, "Tats W. Fuse" <t_fuse at mail.wind.ne.jp>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> ______________________________________________________________
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