From stefano.tancioni at gmail.com  Sat Dec 30 13:17:44 2017
From: stefano.tancioni at gmail.com (Stefano Tancioni)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 19:17:44 +0100
Subject: [DSP-10] Info about DSP-10 Kits, PCB and Parts
Message-ID: <CAGeXE3+JWXuyfFxk+7MOHmY-RUYHaGp3ayWA0kisO+utWpPGug@mail.gmail.com>

Dear All,

I'm interested in building my own DSP-10 RTX and I'm wondering if there are
still some Kits available...Do you know if someone is still selling DSP-10
KITS ?
If not, Do you have any suggestions about how to build it with an update
part list? I have done a quick check on Mouser and many parts are now
listed as "unavailable and obsolete".
Thank you
73
Stefano IW0HNB

From w6mu at comcast.net  Sat Dec 30 16:34:01 2017
From: w6mu at comcast.net (=?utf-8?B?dzZtdUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 13:34:01 -0800
Subject: [DSP-10] =?utf-8?q?Info_about_DSP-10_Kits=2C_PCB_and_Parts?=
Message-ID: <mailman.188.1514669650.2904.dsp-10@mailman.qth.net>

I have a complete kit available.

73

Tim w6mu

Sent from my HTC U11

----- Reply message -----
From: "Stefano Tancioni" <stefano.tancioni at gmail.com>
To: <dsp-10 at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [DSP-10] Info about DSP-10 Kits, PCB and Parts
Date: Sat, Dec 30, 2017 10:17

Dear All,

I'm interested in building my own DSP-10 RTX and I'm wondering if there are
still some Kits available...Do you know if someone is still selling DSP-10
KITS ?
If not, Do you have any suggestions about how to build it with an update
part list? I have done a quick check on Mouser and many parts are now
listed as "unavailable and obsolete".
Thank you
73
Stefano IW0HNB
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From t_fuse at mail.wind.ne.jp  Sun Dec 31 12:58:11 2017
From: t_fuse at mail.wind.ne.jp (Tats W. Fuse)
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2018 02:58:11 +0900
Subject: [DSP-10] Info about DSP-10 Kits, PCB and Parts
In-Reply-To: <20171230213410.5615D149AF1E@mailman.qth.net>
References: <20171230213410.5615D149AF1E@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <4bc5bd0e-7967-4a87-af22-979c54ef84f3@mail.wind.ne.jp>

Me too ... ? available with DSP unit.

73???? de???? JA1PWK? /? Tats

On 2017?12?31? 06:34, w6mu at comcast.net wrote:
> I have a complete kit available.
>
> 73
>
> Tim w6mu
>
> Sent from my HTC U11
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Stefano Tancioni" <stefano.tancioni at gmail.com>
> To: <dsp-10 at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [DSP-10] Info about DSP-10 Kits, PCB and Parts
> Date: Sat, Dec 30, 2017 10:17
>
> Dear All,
>
> I'm interested in building my own DSP-10 RTX and I'm wondering if there are
> still some Kits available...Do you know if someone is still selling DSP-10
> KITS ?
> If not, Do you have any suggestions about how to build it with an update
> part list? I have done a quick check on Mouser and many parts are now
> listed as "unavailable and obsolete".
> Thank you
> 73
> Stefano IW0HNB
> ______________________________________________________________


From tfbiii2002 at gmail.com  Sun Dec 31 13:08:50 2017
From: tfbiii2002 at gmail.com (Fred Buecker)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 13:08:50 -0500
Subject: [DSP-10] Info about DSP-10 Kits, PCB and Parts
In-Reply-To: <4bc5bd0e-7967-4a87-af22-979c54ef84f3@mail.wind.ne.jp>
References: <20171230213410.5615D149AF1E@mailman.qth.net>
	<4bc5bd0e-7967-4a87-af22-979c54ef84f3@mail.wind.ne.jp>
Message-ID: <CANu+-KXN=_4dxZ+69mPE_36L5OSNx6HV6PUgiUqPpos+YM-7-g@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone have the updated/modern parts list if we wanted to try to build
from scratch?

On Dec 31, 2017 12:58 PM, "Tats W. Fuse" <t_fuse at mail.wind.ne.jp> wrote:

> Me too ...   available with DSP unit.
>
> 73     de     JA1PWK  /  Tats
>
> On 2017?12?31? 06:34, w6mu at comcast.net wrote:
>
>> I have a complete kit available.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Tim w6mu
>>
>> Sent from my HTC U11
>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Stefano Tancioni" <stefano.tancioni at gmail.com>
>> To: <dsp-10 at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: [DSP-10] Info about DSP-10 Kits, PCB and Parts
>> Date: Sat, Dec 30, 2017 10:17
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I'm interested in building my own DSP-10 RTX and I'm wondering if there
>> are
>> still some Kits available...Do you know if someone is still selling DSP-10
>> KITS ?
>> If not, Do you have any suggestions about how to build it with an update
>> part list? I have done a quick check on Mouser and many parts are now
>> listed as "unavailable and obsolete".
>> Thank you
>> 73
>> Stefano IW0HNB
>> ______________________________________________________________
>>
>
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From boblark at proaxis.com  Sun Dec 31 15:21:36 2017
From: boblark at proaxis.com (Bob Larkin)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 12:21:36 -0800
Subject: [DSP-10] Info about DSP-10 Kits, PCB and Parts
In-Reply-To: <CANu+-KXN=_4dxZ+69mPE_36L5OSNx6HV6PUgiUqPpos+YM-7-g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20171230213410.5615D149AF1E@mailman.qth.net>
	<4bc5bd0e-7967-4a87-af22-979c54ef84f3@mail.wind.ne.jp>
	<CANu+-KXN=_4dxZ+69mPE_36L5OSNx6HV6PUgiUqPpos+YM-7-g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <28547f2c-6b65-137d-c53d-7ee734801ce6@proaxis.com>

Hi All -

Yes, a number of the parts are not available from distribution, and hard 
to find at all.   Without making any promises, let me mention some 
ongoing work that might lead to some new life for a DSP-10 like project.

Farhan, VU2ESE, is a skilled RF designer with some DSP experience.  He 
is exploring hardware for an updated 2-meter DSP project.  I am not sure 
where he is at on this, but it might lead to good things.

One remaining hardware issue is the EZ-Kit/DSPx, and their poor 
availability.  To that end, I was steered by KC7WW to PJRC and their 
Teensy products
https://www.pjrc.com/store/teensy36.html
The 3.6 runs a ARM Cortex-M4 at 180 MHz and has good DSP capability, 
including 32-bit fixed integers and single-precision floating point.  I 
used this to create an Audio Vector Network Analyzer (coming this spring 
in QEX) and that was a pleasant experience.  So, I am currently 
exploring using the Teensy 3.6 as a replacement for the EZ-Kit.  As part 
of that, I am putting together a control box that would have a small 
graphical touch screen, tuning knob and more of that sort of stuff.  It 
is not to replace a PC interface, but rather to allow a subset of the 
capability to be run stand-alone.  It would sorta look like an IC-7000. 
More on that, including a link to a schematic, at post #85 on page 4 of
https://forum.pjrc.com/threads/40590-Teensy-Convolution-SDR-(Software-Defined-Radio)

Also check out the interesting DD4WH receiver in that same thread.

The support from PJRC is outstanding, BTW.

We will see where all of this leads.

73, Bob  W7PUA

On 12/31/2017 10:08 AM, Fred Buecker wrote:
> Does anyone have the updated/modern parts list if we wanted to try to build
> from scratch?
> 
> On Dec 31, 2017 12:58 PM, "Tats W. Fuse" <t_fuse at mail.wind.ne.jp> wrote:
> 

From boblark at proaxis.com  Sun Dec 31 19:37:51 2017
From: boblark at proaxis.com (Bob Larkin)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 16:37:51 -0800
Subject: [DSP-10] Info about DSP-10 Kits, PCB and Parts
Message-ID: <10506eea-7959-64f1-8aab-6279f6c24c1b@proaxis.com>

Hi All -

Yes, a number of the parts are not available from distribution, and hard 
to find at all.   Without making any promises, let me mention some 
ongoing work that might lead to some new life for a DSP-10 like project.

Farhan, VU2ESE, is a skilled RF designer with some DSP experience.  He 
is exploring hardware for an updated 2-meter DSP project.  I am not sure 
where he is at on this, but it may lead to good things.

One remaining hardware issue is the EZ-Kit/DSPx, and their poor 
availability.  To that end, I was steered by KC7WW to PJRC and their 
Teensy products
https://www.pjrc.com/store/teensy36.html
The 3.6 runs a ARM Cortex-M4 at 180 MHz and has good DSP capability, 
including 32-bit fixed integers and single-precision floating point.  I 
used this to create an Audio Vector Network Analyzer (coming this spring 
in QEX) and that was a pleasant experience.  So, I am currently 
exploring using the Teensy 3.6 as a replacement for the EZ-Kit.  As part 
of that, I am putting together a control box that would have a small 
graphical touch screen, tuning knob and more of that sort of stuff.  It 
is not to replace a PC interface, but rather to allow a subset of the 
capability to be run stand-alone.  It would sorta look like an IC-7000. 
More on that, including a link to a schematic, at post #85 on page 4 of
https://forum.pjrc.com/threads/40590-Teensy-Convolution-SDR-(Software-Defined-Radio)

Also check out the interesting DD4WH receiver in that same thread.

The support from PJRC is outstanding, BTW.

We will see where all of this leads.

73, Bob  W7PUA

PS - I hope this isn't posted twice. It is my second try...

On 12/31/2017 10:08 AM, Fred Buecker wrote:
 > Does anyone have the updated/modern parts list if we wanted to try to 
build
 > from scratch?
 >
 > On Dec 31, 2017 12:58 PM, "Tats W. Fuse" <t_fuse at mail.wind.ne.jp> wrote:

From macw6fcs at gmail.com  Sun Dec 31 19:06:33 2017
From: macw6fcs at gmail.com (John McNiel)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 16:06:33 -0800
Subject: [DSP-10] Info about DSP-10 Kits, PCB and Parts
In-Reply-To: <28547f2c-6b65-137d-c53d-7ee734801ce6@proaxis.com>
References: <20171230213410.5615D149AF1E@mailman.qth.net>
	<4bc5bd0e-7967-4a87-af22-979c54ef84f3@mail.wind.ne.jp>
	<CANu+-KXN=_4dxZ+69mPE_36L5OSNx6HV6PUgiUqPpos+YM-7-g@mail.gmail.com>
	<28547f2c-6b65-137d-c53d-7ee734801ce6@proaxis.com>
Message-ID: <CANBiWuw0iUV1BP5kY0vXdXtR7_0s=isdTH5J=SviASfDktrAFw@mail.gmail.com>

Stop sending me your funkin e-mails. I didn't subscribe to any email lists
or reflectors.
Stop all of these emails.

On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Bob Larkin <boblark at proaxis.com> wrote:

> Hi All -
>
> Yes, a number of the parts are not available from distribution, and hard
> to find at all.   Without making any promises, let me mention some ongoing
> work that might lead to some new life for a DSP-10 like project.
>
> Farhan, VU2ESE, is a skilled RF designer with some DSP experience.  He is
> exploring hardware for an updated 2-meter DSP project.  I am not sure where
> he is at on this, but it might lead to good things.
>
> One remaining hardware issue is the EZ-Kit/DSPx, and their poor
> availability.  To that end, I was steered by KC7WW to PJRC and their Teensy
> products
> https://www.pjrc.com/store/teensy36.html
> The 3.6 runs a ARM Cortex-M4 at 180 MHz and has good DSP capability,
> including 32-bit fixed integers and single-precision floating point.  I
> used this to create an Audio Vector Network Analyzer (coming this spring in
> QEX) and that was a pleasant experience.  So, I am currently exploring
> using the Teensy 3.6 as a replacement for the EZ-Kit.  As part of that, I
> am putting together a control box that would have a small graphical touch
> screen, tuning knob and more of that sort of stuff.  It is not to replace a
> PC interface, but rather to allow a subset of the capability to be run
> stand-alone.  It would sorta look like an IC-7000. More on that, including
> a link to a schematic, at post #85 on page 4 of
> https://forum.pjrc.com/threads/40590-Teensy-Convolution-SDR-
> (Software-Defined-Radio)
>
> Also check out the interesting DD4WH receiver in that same thread.
>
> The support from PJRC is outstanding, BTW.
>
> We will see where all of this leads.
>
> 73, Bob  W7PUA
>
> On 12/31/2017 10:08 AM, Fred Buecker wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have the updated/modern parts list if we wanted to try to
>> build
>> from scratch?
>>
>> On Dec 31, 2017 12:58 PM, "Tats W. Fuse" <t_fuse at mail.wind.ne.jp> wrote:
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
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From pogletree at comcast.net  Sun Dec 31 15:44:41 2017
From: pogletree at comcast.net (Perry Ogletree)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 14:44:41 -0600
Subject: [DSP-10] Info about DSP-10 Kits, PCB and Parts
In-Reply-To: <CANu+-KXN=_4dxZ+69mPE_36L5OSNx6HV6PUgiUqPpos+YM-7-g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20171230213410.5615D149AF1E@mailman.qth.net>	<4bc5bd0e-7967-4a87-af22-979c54ef84f3@mail.wind.ne.jp>
	<CANu+-KXN=_4dxZ+69mPE_36L5OSNx6HV6PUgiUqPpos+YM-7-g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <030501d38278$2f3427f0$8d9c77d0$@comcast.net>

It'll take more than an updated parts list.  Some of the obsolete parts have no "modern" equivalent.  It would take a re-design along with new firmware/software to handle the newer parts.

Perry K4PWO

-----Original Message-----
From: dsp-10-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:dsp-10-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Buecker
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 12:09 PM
To: Discussion of DSP-10 2-meter transceiver <dsp-10 at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [DSP-10] Info about DSP-10 Kits, PCB and Parts

Does anyone have the updated/modern parts list if we wanted to try to build from scratch?

On Dec 31, 2017 12:58 PM, "Tats W. Fuse" <t_fuse at mail.wind.ne.jp> wrote:

> Me too ...   available with DSP unit.
>
> 73     de     JA1PWK  /  Tats
>
> On 2017?12?31? 06:34, w6mu at comcast.net wrote:
>
>> I have a complete kit available.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Tim w6mu
>>
>> Sent from my HTC U11
>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Stefano Tancioni" <stefano.tancioni at gmail.com>
>> To: <dsp-10 at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: [DSP-10] Info about DSP-10 Kits, PCB and Parts
>> Date: Sat, Dec 30, 2017 10:17
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I'm interested in building my own DSP-10 RTX and I'm wondering if 
>> there are still some Kits available...Do you know if someone is still 
>> selling DSP-10 KITS ?
>> If not, Do you have any suggestions about how to build it with an 
>> update part list? I have done a quick check on Mouser and many parts 
>> are now listed as "unavailable and obsolete".
>> Thank you
>> 73
>> Stefano IW0HNB
>> ______________________________________________________________
>>
>
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From w6mu at comcast.net  Sun Dec 31 15:00:54 2017
From: w6mu at comcast.net (=?utf-8?B?dzZtdUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 12:00:54 -0800
Subject: [DSP-10] =?utf-8?q?Info_about_DSP-10_Kits=2C_PCB_and_Parts?=
Message-ID: <mailman.0.1514775743.3362.dsp-10@mailman.qth.net>

To clarify...i have all the DSP-10  parts.  It is NOT assembled.

Tim, w6mu



Sent from my HTC

----- Reply message -----
From: "Fred Buecker" <tfbiii2002 at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of DSP-10 2-meter transceiver" <dsp-10 at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [DSP-10] Info about DSP-10 Kits, PCB and Parts
Date: Sun, Dec 31, 2017 10:08

Does anyone have the updated/modern parts list if we wanted to try to build
from scratch?

On Dec 31, 2017 12:58 PM, "Tats W. Fuse" <t_fuse at mail.wind.ne.jp> wrote:

> Me too ...   available with DSP unit.
>
> 73     de     JA1PWK  /  Tats
>
> On 2017?12?31? 06:34, w6mu at comcast.net wrote:
>
>> I have a complete kit available.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Tim w6mu
>>
>> Sent from my HTC U11
>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Stefano Tancioni" <stefano.tancioni at gmail.com>
>> To: <dsp-10 at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: [DSP-10] Info about DSP-10 Kits, PCB and Parts
>> Date: Sat, Dec 30, 2017 10:17
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I'm interested in building my own DSP-10 RTX and I'm wondering if there
>> are
>> still some Kits available...Do you know if someone is still selling DSP-10
>> KITS ?
>> If not, Do you have any suggestions about how to build it with an update
>> part list? I have done a quick check on Mouser and many parts are now
>> listed as "unavailable and obsolete".
>> Thank you
>> 73
>> Stefano IW0HNB
>> ______________________________________________________________
>>
>
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