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In a message dated 12/3/02 12:46:32 PM US Eastern Standard Time, Charlesstaples@worldnet.att.net writes: << I have successfully used crystals from International Crystal in Oklahoma City for crystals for my R4B. They knew the specifications. Their website is: www.icmfg.com. Charles Staples WB5ZNV >> I've used International and JAN crystals with no problems. Both companies knew the specs of the Drake T/R crystals and both were easy to deal with. ICM is a bit higher priced than JAN but either one satisfied my requirements. 73 and good luck