From AF4K at hotmail.com  Mon Feb  6 07:05:37 2017
From: AF4K at hotmail.com (Bry Carling)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 12:05:37 +0000
Subject: [DCboatanchors] NOVICE RIG ROUNDUP
Message-ID: <DM5PR15MB15610FB0A1B13B2A15692ADA97400@DM5PR15MB1561.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>

Hey folks - the Novice Rig Roundup will soon be here! < 2 weeks now...

See you on 80m, 40m, 15m, 10m soon! Help spread the word.


Please be sure to register for the ONLINE Logging Program...

Full details at:


http://www.novicerigroundup.com/nrrLog/login1.php


http://www.novicerigroundup.com/


73 - Bry Carling, AF4K


From af4k at hotmail.com  Mon Feb  6 22:36:44 2017
From: af4k at hotmail.com (Bry Carling)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 03:36:44 +0000
Subject: [DCboatanchors] [Glowbugs] Re: NOVICE RIG ROUNDUP
In-Reply-To: <f6185fd5-b828-4cd1-89d4-98631d3074f4@googlegroups.com>
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	<f6185fd5-b828-4cd1-89d4-98631d3074f4@googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <DM5PR15MB1561842AB013AFB69205304397430@DM5PR15MB1561.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>

Same here Jim. I was never an office either. I think they did have a.m. privileges on 144 MHz at one point.

Best regards - Bry Carling, AF4K
117 Sterling Pine St.
Sanford, FL 32773

Tel: 321-262-5471




On Feb 6, 2017, at 6:42 PM, Jim Falls <jim.falls at conservation.ca.gov<mailto:jim.falls at conservation.ca.gov>> wrote:

Not having been a Novice, and having an excellent CW-Diode between my ears (forward biased, retards incoming signal decoding), did Novices ever have any AM privileges? I've found lots of Novice reminiscing online, but not an actual Band Plan (which I'm sure changed over the decades). Let's assume Mid- Late 50's given the equipment I plan to run (WRL 680-A and Heath DX-60).

Thanks,
Jim K6FWT

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From af4k at hotmail.com  Mon Feb  6 22:38:35 2017
From: af4k at hotmail.com (Bry Carling)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 03:38:35 +0000
Subject: [DCboatanchors] [Glowbugs] Re: NOVICE RIG ROUNDUP
In-Reply-To: <CAKi7SJE4jOTh2pZ9BKbm_eVUPHxatdYMHhENQkvidt7vcPqsmw@mail.gmail.com>
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	<f6185fd5-b828-4cd1-89d4-98631d3074f4@googlegroups.com>,
	<CAKi7SJE4jOTh2pZ9BKbm_eVUPHxatdYMHhENQkvidt7vcPqsmw@mail.gmail.com>
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Look for Novice stations on 2m AM during the NRR. A number of us will be on 144.450 MHz the common calling frequency nowadays with ready availability of 8025 kHz crystals.

Best regards - Bry Carling, WN4NRR


On Feb 6, 2017, at 6:47 PM, Hal Dale <wb4aeg at gmail.com<mailto:wb4aeg at gmail.com>> wrote:

Back in the early Novice days 2M AM was available to a Novice...There was little to no FM at the time. Here in Georgia 144.35 was referred to around here as the Confederate signal corp freq. There was actually quite a bit of activity...Hal/WB4AEG

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Jim Falls <jim.falls at conservation.ca.gov<mailto:jim.falls at conservation.ca.gov>> wrote:
Not having been a Novice, and having an excellent CW-Diode between my ears (forward biased, retards incoming signal decoding), did Novices ever have any AM privileges? I've found lots of Novice reminiscing online, but not an actual Band Plan (which I'm sure changed over the decades). Let's assume Mid- Late 50's given the equipment I plan to run (WRL 680-A and Heath DX-60).

Thanks,
Jim K6FWT

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From AF4K at hotmail.com  Tue Feb  7 15:59:55 2017
From: AF4K at hotmail.com (Bry Carling)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 20:59:55 +0000
Subject: [DCboatanchors] [Glowbugs] Re: NOVICE RIG ROUNDUP
In-Reply-To: <1720177645.4123861.1486489782933@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <DM5PR15MB15610FB0A1B13B2A15692ADA97400@DM5PR15MB1561.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>
	<1daaaddc-3252-49cd-9f58-6a15aa73c3c6@googlegroups.com>,
	<1720177645.4123861.1486489782933@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DM5PR15MB1561222E2744AD477DEA9EAC97430@DM5PR15MB1561.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>

They NOW? Glen how many Novice licensees are there in existence today please?  I hadn't thought about that, but I suppose  there might be some.


Thanks for the info - Bry AF4K


________________________________
From: 'Glen Zook' via Glowbugs <tetrode at googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 12:49 PM
To: Jim Falls; Glowbugs
Cc: FLBoatanchors at yahoogroups.com; dcboatanchors at qth.net; novicerigroundup at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Glowbugs] Re: NOVICE RIG ROUNDUP

No!  Novice Class operators never had any 6-meter privileges.  They now have privileges on 222 MHz with 25 watts maximum output and from 1270 MHz to 1295 MHz with 5-watts output as well as their HF privileges.



Glen, K9STH

Website: http://k9sth.net


________________________________
From: Jim Falls <jim.falls at conservation.ca.gov>
To: Glowbugs <tetrode at googlegroups.com>
Cc: FLBoatanchors at yahoogroups.com; dcboatanchors at qth.net; novicerigroundup at yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 10:40 AM
Subject: [Glowbugs] Re: NOVICE RIG ROUNDUP

So it looks like 6M is out if I want to stay 50's-60's mode.
Did Novices ever have 6M phone privileges?




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From AF4K at hotmail.com  Tue Feb  7 19:38:15 2017
From: AF4K at hotmail.com (Bry Carling)
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 00:38:15 +0000
Subject: [DCboatanchors] [Glowbugs] Re: NOVICE RIG ROUNDUP
In-Reply-To: <1451824048.90422.1486512287291@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <DM5PR15MB15610FB0A1B13B2A15692ADA97400@DM5PR15MB1561.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>
	<1daaaddc-3252-49cd-9f58-6a15aa73c3c6@googlegroups.com>
	<1720177645.4123861.1486489782933@mail.yahoo.com>
	<DM5PR15MB1561222E2744AD477DEA9EAC97430@DM5PR15MB1561.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>,
	<1451824048.90422.1486512287291@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DM5PR15MB1561B1A8BCE5CBD3547051AA97420@DM5PR15MB1561.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>

It would be nice to honor these guys next year in the NRR with special bonus points for any time someone works them!


Thanks Glen!

________________________________
From: Glen Zook <gzook at yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 7:04 PM
To: Bry Carling; Jim Falls
Cc: FLBoatanchors at yahoogroups.com; dcboatanchors at qth.net; novicerigroundup at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Glowbugs] Re: NOVICE RIG ROUNDUP

According to:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts
FCC License Counts - American Radio Relay League<http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts>
www.arrl.org
The American Radio Relay League (ARRL) is the national association for amateur radio, connecting hams around the U.S. with news, information and resources.




As of yesterday, there are 9844 Novice Class operators still around.


Glen, K9STH

Website: http://k9sth.net


________________________________
From: Bry Carling <AF4K at hotmail.com>
To: Jim Falls <jim.falls at conservation.ca.gov>; Glen Zook <gzook at yahoo.com>
Cc: "FLBoatanchors at yahoogroups.com" <FLBoatanchors at yahoogroups.com>; "dcboatanchors at qth.net" <dcboatanchors at qth.net>; "novicerigroundup at yahoogroups.com" <novicerigroundup at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Glowbugs] Re: NOVICE RIG ROUNDUP

They NOW? Glen how many Novice licensees are there in existence today please?  I hadn't thought about that, but I suppose  there might be some.

Thanks for the info - Bry AF4K



From AF4K at hotmail.com  Tue Feb  7 19:50:58 2017
From: AF4K at hotmail.com (Bry Carling)
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 00:50:58 +0000
Subject: [DCboatanchors] [novicerigroundup] Re: [Glowbugs] Re: NOVICE
	RIG ROUNDUP
In-Reply-To: <DM3PR17MB081177B69362104FEC7C2707CF420@DM3PR17MB0811.namprd17.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DM5PR15MB15610FB0A1B13B2A15692ADA97400@DM5PR15MB1561.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>
	<1daaaddc-3252-49cd-9f58-6a15aa73c3c6@googlegroups.com>
	<1720177645.4123861.1486489782933@mail.yahoo.com>
	<DM5PR15MB1561222E2744AD477DEA9EAC97430@DM5PR15MB1561.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>
	<01b39e7c-7927-5efa-eb37-2a06a0c9d395@att.net>
	<55E484EF-29AC-4A95-9BA1-92290CE043D2@aim.com>
	<1745561396.65123.1486508979648@mail.yahoo.com>,
	<DM3PR17MB081177B69362104FEC7C2707CF420@DM3PR17MB0811.namprd17.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <DM5PR15MB15617118FF936919A516B55B97420@DM5PR15MB1561.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>

Well fellas - this year we are honoring the original KN and WN "novice" call signs of the  1950s.


Next year I expect it will be something else. Perhaps we should honor anyone who still has their Novice LICENSE in effect.

Glen Zook tells me that there are 9844 of these guys

holding a CURRENT Novice License but I have yet to talk with one of them! That was certainly news to me!


Does ANYBODY know someone with a CURRENT Novice Class License in effect??


I thought that they had all been grand-fathered into Technician Class licenses at some point a few years ago. Am I mistaken?


Speak up REAL NOVICES!





________________________________
From: novicerigroundup at yahoogroups.com <novicerigroundup at yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Bob Macklin macklinbob at hotmail.com [novicerigroundup] <novicerigroundup at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 7:30 PM
To: novicerigroundup at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [novicerigroundup] Re: [Glowbugs] Re: NOVICE RIG ROUNDUP



The original Novice calls started with "WN" or "KN".

Mine was "KN5MYJ" in 1957. "K5MYJ" was my Tech call for the same time period.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.
"Real Radios Glow In The Dark"
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I don't think there is such a thing as a novice call.

There may be a novice operator with his original call, but not a novice call.
2x3, 1x3, 2x2, 1x2 calls are all just calls.

I think anyone can petition for any available call out there, as long as it is not
being used.  This may even apply to the 1x2 and 2x1 calls.


________________________________
From: "Gary Johanson wd4nka at aim.com<mailto:wd4nka at aim.com> [novicerigroundup]" <novicerigroundup at yahoogroups.com>
To: novicerigroundup at yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [novicerigroundup] Re: [Glowbugs] Re: NOVICE RIG ROUNDUP


My call is my Novice call, does that count? ? When I upgraded to General, I kept my Novice call, wd4nka.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 7, 2017, at 5:15 PM, Paul Cavnar hambone44 at att.net<mailto:hambone44 at att.net> [novicerigroundup] <novicerigroundup at yahoogroups.com<mailto:novicerigroundup at yahoogroups.com>> wrote:


How many of them are even active today?
Paul - K7IN

On 2/7/2017 12:59 PM, Bry Carling af4k at hotmail.com<mailto:af4k at hotmail.com> [novicerigroundup] wrote:

They NOW? Glen how many Novice licensees are there in existence today please?  I hadn't thought about that, but I suppose  there might be some.

Thanks for the info - Bry AF4K


________________________________
From: 'Glen Zook' via Glowbugs <tetrode at googlegroups.com><mailto:tetrode at googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 12:49 PM
To: Jim Falls; Glowbugs
Cc: FLBoatanchors at yahoogroups.com<mailto:FLBoatanchors at yahoogroups.com>; dcboatanchors at qth.net<mailto:dcboatanchors at qth.net>; novicerigroundup at yahoogroups.com<mailto:novicerigroundup at yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Glowbugs] Re: NOVICE RIG ROUNDUP

No!  Novice Class operators never had any 6-meter privileges.  They now have privileges on 222 MHz with 25 watts maximum output and from 1270 MHz to 1295 MHz with 5-watts output as well as their HF privileges.



Glen, K9STH

Website: http://k9sth.net<http://k9sth.net/>


________________________________
From: Jim Falls <jim.falls at conservation.ca.gov><mailto:jim.falls at conservation.ca.gov>
To: Glowbugs <tetrode at googlegroups.com><mailto:tetrode at googlegroups.com>
Cc: FLBoatanchors at yahoogroups.com<mailto:FLBoatanchors at yahoogroups.com>; dcboatanchors at qth.net<mailto:dcboatanchors at qth.net>; novicerigroundup at yahoogroups.com<mailto:novicerigroundup at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 10:40 AM
Subject: [Glowbugs] Re: NOVICE RIG ROUNDUP

So it looks like 6M is out if I want to stay 50's-60's mode.
Did Novices ever have 6M phone privileges?



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From AF4K at hotmail.com  Wed Feb  8 19:32:06 2017
From: AF4K at hotmail.com (Bry Carling)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 00:32:06 +0000
Subject: [DCboatanchors] [FLBOATANCHORS] Re: [Glowbugs] Re: NOVICE RIG
	ROUNDUP
In-Reply-To: <8cfswd3m45rh508n8fpy679g.1486505228997@email.android.com>
References: <8cfswd3m45rh508n8fpy679g.1486505228997@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <DM5PR15MB15617F26821CBD6EE90778DC97450@DM5PR15MB1561.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>

I would love to know how many are on the air.


I would also love to know what privileges they have now.

________________________________
From: FLBOATANCHORS at yahoogroups.com <FLBOATANCHORS at yahoogroups.com> on behalf of N2ey N2EY at aol.com [FLBOATANCHORS] <FLBOATANCHORS at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 5:07 PM
To: flboatanchors at yahoogroups.com; jim.falls at conservation.ca.gov; gzook at yahoo.com
Cc: flboatanchors at yahoogroups.com; dcboatanchors at qth.net; novicerigroundup at yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FLBOATANCHORS] Re: [Glowbugs] Re: NOVICE RIG ROUNDUP



Just under 10,000 current unexpired Novices today.


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note?, an AT&T LTE smartphone


-------- Original message --------
Subject: [FLBOATANCHORS] Re: [Glowbugs] Re: NOVICE RIG ROUNDUP
From: "Bry Carling af4k at hotmail.com [FLBOATANCHORS]" <FLBOATANCHORS at yahoogroups.com>
To: Jim Falls <jim.falls at conservation.ca.gov>,Glen Zook <gzook at yahoo.com>
CC: [FLBOATANCHORS] Re: [Glowbugs] Re: NOVICE RIG ROUNDUP




They NOW? Glen how many Novice licensees are there in existence today please?  I hadn't thought about that, but I suppose  there might be some.


Thanks for the info - Bry AF4K


________________________________
From: 'Glen Zook' via Glowbugs <tetrode at googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 12:49 PM
To: Jim Falls; Glowbugs
Cc: FLBoatanchors at yahoogroups.com; dcboatanchors at qth.net; novicerigroundup at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Glowbugs] Re: NOVICE RIG ROUNDUP

No!  Novice Class operators never had any 6-meter privileges.  They now have privileges on 222 MHz with 25 watts maximum output and from 1270 MHz to 1295 MHz with 5-watts output as well as their HF privileges.



Glen, K9STH

Website: http://k9sth.net


________________________________
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To: Glowbugs <tetrode at googlegroups.com>
Cc: FLBoatanchors at yahoogroups.com; dcboatanchors at qth.net; novicerigroundup at yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 10:40 AM
Subject: [Glowbugs] Re: NOVICE RIG ROUNDUP

So it looks like 6M is out if I want to stay 50's-60's mode.
Did Novices ever have 6M phone privileges?




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From AF4K at hotmail.com  Wed Feb  8 19:38:36 2017
From: AF4K at hotmail.com (Bry Carling)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 00:38:36 +0000
Subject: [DCboatanchors] [Boatanchors] [novicerigroundup] Re: [Glowbugs]
	Re: NOVICE RIG	ROUNDUP
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Too late Glenn. Maybe next year. The vast majority of Novice licenses issue din the early days where all WN and KN.


I worked plenty of  WN2s and KN6s back in those days too!

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From: Glen Zook <gzook at yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 10:01 AM
To: Bry Carling; novicerigroundup at yahoogroups.com; DC BA; BoatAnchors QTH; FL Boatanchors
Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] [novicerigroundup] Re: [Glowbugs] Re: NOVICE RIG ROUNDUP

You need to add the WV Novice Class call signs that were used in the 2nd and 6th call areas.  Those usually became WA calls when upgrading.



Glen, K9STH

Website: http://k9sth.net


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From: Bry Carling <AF4K at hotmail.com>
To: "novicerigroundup at yahoogroups.com" <novicerigroundup at yahoogroups.com>; DC BA <dcboatanchors at qth.net>; BoatAnchors QTH <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>; FL Boatanchors <FLBOATANCHORS at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] [novicerigroundup] Re: [Glowbugs] Re: NOVICE RIG ROUNDUP

Well fellas - this year we are honoring the original KN and WN "novice" call signs of the  1950s.


Next year I expect it will be something else. Perhaps we should honor anyone who still has their Novice LICENSE in effect.

Glen Zook tells me that there are 9844 of these guys

holding a CURRENT Novice License but I have yet to talk with one of them! That was certainly news to me!


Does ANYBODY know someone with a CURRENT Novice Class License in effect??


I thought that they had all been grand-fathered into Technician Class licenses at some point a few years ago. Am I mistaken?


Speak up REAL NOVICES!