From bcarling at cfl.rr.com  Thu Mar  8 17:02:18 2007
From: bcarling at cfl.rr.com (Bry Carling)
Date: Thu Mar  8 17:08:45 2007
Subject: [DCboatanchors] FS: 2m FM rig - Regency HR2B
Message-ID: <45F0419A.16571.27BA2D6@localhost>

FOR SALE:

Regency HR2B 144-148 MHz mobile or base FM transceiver.
Very good condition. Has several crystals. Original microphone.

Regency HR2B available for $19.00
Regency Microphone available for $5.00
120V AC Power supply available for $6.00
shipping additional.
From bcarling at cfl.rr.com  Thu Mar  8 17:02:18 2007
From: bcarling at cfl.rr.com (Bry Carling)
Date: Thu Mar  8 17:09:32 2007
Subject: [DCboatanchors] FS: 2m FM rig - Regency HR2B
Message-ID: <45F0419A.16571.27BA2D6@localhost>

FOR SALE:

Regency HR2B 144-148 MHz mobile or base FM transceiver.
Very good condition. Has several crystals. Original microphone.

Regency HR2B available for $19.00
Regency Microphone available for $5.00
120V AC Power supply available for $6.00
shipping additional.
From bcarling at cfl.rr.com  Fri Mar  9 16:07:20 2007
From: bcarling at cfl.rr.com (Bry Carling)
Date: Fri Mar  9 16:13:51 2007
Subject: [DCboatanchors] FS: SURPLUS RADIO ITEMS
Message-ID: <45F18638.10892.262073C@localhost>

FOR SALE:

Lafayette HE-45A Transceiver for 6m AM with HE61 
Ext. VFO 
- $45.00 plus shipping

Model BC457A mil surplus transmitter 4-5.3 Mc. 
complete
- $45.00 plus shipping

ARC-27 40 watt AM Plate Modulators - now $35.00 
each

BC221 Frequency Meter - reduced to $45.00 plus 
shipping.

YAESU SP-107 Speaker for FT-107 Transceiver - now 
$35.00

ELECTRONIC KEYER for CW - 120V AC - matches 
Collins - $29.00

10 ohm, 300 Watt NON-INDUCTIVE resistors.
Great for RF termination or power testing. These 
will make 
a very high-powered RF or audio load.
QTY 12 available for $10.00 each plus shipping

11 Pin Octal style Plugs. These are brand new, and 
look just like a male octal connector, chassis 
mount.
Same size only with eleven pins. Black plastic, 
male.
NOTE - these are NOT tube sockets.
QTY 2 available for $4.00 each plus shipping.

15-Pin Cinch-Jones female connector as used on 
Multi Elmac 
and several other radios - Cable end or chassis 
style.
Available for $7.00 plus shipping.

Power resistors - 20 KILOHMS at 10 Watts, 5% - 
$3.00 each.

Pictures and details are available at:

http://www.af4k.com/miscpart.htm
AND
http://www.af4k.com/radios.htm

73 - Brian
From bcarling at cfl.rr.com  Wed Mar 14 12:14:44 2007
From: bcarling at cfl.rr.com (Bry Carling)
Date: Wed Mar 14 12:17:01 2007
Subject: [DCboatanchors] DE-OXIT WARNING....
Message-ID: <45F7F544.9494.1389666@localhost>

Just read this WARNING about the need for care when using 
DE-OXIT (anod similar products) from another group.

I hope it helps someone else!!
= = =

I  started to work this morning on the Heathkit SB-401 Transmitter 
that came in 
from Ebay, and I can see why few others bid on it.  It was a Basket 
Case.   
Undaunted, I pulled it out of the case and cleaned the first layer of 
mud and 
debris off the chassis.  The seller had said it wouldn't light up, 
but 
installing a new power plug, I was delighted to see the tubes and 
dial lights 
glow.  But there was some sparking around the Driver variable 
capacitor, which I 
decided to investigate later.  I noticed the VFO dial knob turned the 
LMO, but 
the dial itself didn't move.  UH OH!!! Thats no good!  Those dials 
are 
irreplacable, and go for more than a working radio on Ebay!  The 
knobs were 
removed and then the front panel, and my fears were at its worst.  
Yes, the hub 
had broken loose from the dial and the dial was shattered!!! With no 
replacement, this one would have to be fixed!  The hub was placed on 
the table 
and the dial laid approximately where it would normally go.  Then, a 
large batch 
of JB WELD epoxy was mixed up and the dial was glued in place.  Yay!  
It 
worked!!! I remounted the dial assembly and re-assembled the front 
panel.  
Things were going well, so I decided to do the routine maintenance of 
spraying 
all the tube sockets, switches and pots with De-OX-IT, a contact 
cleaner. It was 
time to plug the radio back in and continue testing.  The power 
switch was 
turned on, and suddenly the entire radio BURST INTO FLAMES!!!! No 
kidding, it 
was like a giant Flambe dinner!  All the PCBs and sockets were on 
fire.  I had 
forgotten the sparking of the Driver capacitor and it had ignited the 
contact 
cleaner, which was marked "EXTREMELY FLAMMABLE" on the can.  With no 
fire 
extinguisher available, I did the next best thing.  Unplug it and 
pretend it was 
a giant BIRTHDAY CAKE!!! WOOSH WOOSH WOOSH!!!!!!!   Eventually the 
flames went 
out, and I had singed hair.  But I was lucky it hadn't set off the 
sprinklers in 
the building!!!   Don't think the Boss would have had any humor on 
that at all, 
coming in to see the buidling underwater due to a JUNK RADIO I was 
working on.  
I checked for damage but couldn't see where the flames had hurt 
anything.  But 
it sure was EXCITING there for a few moments!!!!  
See how DANGEROUS restoring radios are?  Maybe I can work on it 
tommorrow. The 
Driver cap stopped sparking, guess what caused it BURNT UP! 
 
Pat Bunsold WA6MHZ 
From bcarling at cfl.rr.com  Sat Mar 17 20:49:13 2007
From: bcarling at cfl.rr.com (Bry Carling)
Date: Sat Mar 17 20:51:28 2007
Subject: [DCboatanchors] FS: RADIO PARTS AND ACCESSORIES
Message-ID: <45FC6259.10737.1127598@localhost>

FOR SALE:

6.3V at 8.3 AMPS filament transformer.
120V AC primary. New -  $19

Microwave diodes:
QTY 2 - 1N23B
QTY 3 - 1N416E
QTY 2 - 1N416G
Available for $9 each or all 7 for $40 plus shipping

UTC Transformer type HC-115. Gray potted style, new - $10

BC-457A Transmitter, silver 4.0 to 5.3 Mc. - 
$45 plus shipping

BC-221 Frequency Meter, 120V AC - $45 plus shipping

24V DC dynamotor P.S. type DM-37B yields 625V DC 
at 225 mA... $12.00 plus shipping

YAESU SP-107 Speaker for FT-107 Transceiver $35

TOWER WARNING SAFETY SIGNS - $2.50

Rubber duck antennas for 450 MHz - $3
Rubber duck antennas for 902 MHz - $3

NON-INDUCTIVE resistors, 10 ohms at 300 watts - $10
(Qty 12 available now)






From W8EK at speakeasy.net  Sun Mar 18 08:31:51 2007
From: W8EK at speakeasy.net (Ken Simpson, W8EK)
Date: Sun Mar 18 08:34:11 2007
Subject: [DCboatanchors] Coaxial antenna switches FS
Message-ID: <000801c76961$ca62b840$f801000a@kendell>


Coaxial antenna switches for sale:

MFJ 1704 Coax Switch
This coax switch will switch 4 antennas, and also includes 
a lightning protection "pill" in its heavy die cast housing.  It 
is very heavy duty, and features stripline construction for 
good impedance matching at higher frequencies, and gives 
50 db isolation, even up thru 500 MHz.  Unused antennas 
are grounded and a fifth position grounds all antennas.  
This one works fine and looks like new.  $55

MFJ 1702 B  Coax Switch
Switches 2 antennas. Unused position IS grounded.
A third position grounds both antennas.
This coaxial antenna switch is in a heavy diecast 
housing that utilizes "stripline" construction to keep 
the impedance very close to 50 ohms. It also 
permits good operation at higher frequencies.
This one works 100% and looks great also. $ 20

B & W Model 550 A coax switch
This model will switch up to 5 antennas, and does NOT
ground unused antennas.  It has SO-239 connectors
on the sides, with the coax coming out like spokes of 
a wheel. It works fine.  $ 28.

B & W Model 550 A coax switch
As above, but includes a mounting bracket for $ 30.

B & W Model 55 A - 2
This is a 2 position coax switch, similar to the 550 A 
(above), but only switches 2 antennas.  The unused 
position is not grounded.  SO-239 connectors come 
out like spokes of a wheel. It works fine and looks 
fine also.  $20

AmComm JV-104 coax switch
Switches 3 antennas, with SO-239 connectors. It is in 
a nice black rectangular box about 4 x 3 x 3 inches in 
size. Very nice condition. $25

Pace 5621,  4 position Coax Switch
This is in a 4 x 3 x 2 rectangular box, with 4 switched SO-239 
connectors. Unused positions are NOT grounded.  It works 
fine, but cosmetically is not as nice as some.  $8

Prices do not include shipping from Florida.

Thanks.

73,

Ken, W8EK

Ken Simpson
E-mail to W8EK@speakeasy.net or W8EK@arrl.net
Voice Phone  (352) 732-8400







From bcarling at cfl.rr.com  Sat Mar 24 10:34:24 2007
From: bcarling at cfl.rr.com (Bry Carling)
Date: Sat Mar 24 10:37:19 2007
Subject: [DCboatanchors] FS: Radios & Parts - REDUCED
Message-ID: <46050CC0.21146.84908@localhost>

FOR SALE:

EIMAC 4PR60 tetrode transmitting tube. 
This is a similar tube to the 4-65 but pulse rated, and 
lower interelectrode capacitance. 4-pin base. Would make 
a neat glowbug transmitter, or a conversation piece.
Available for $5.00 plus shipping.

100 amp hash filter for 12V DC mobile radio use. Large terminals, 
Heavy duty. Available for $5.00 plus shipping.

100 watt TVI filter with SO239 connectors, clean - made
by Realistic. Cutoff at 30 MHz. AVailable for $5.00 plus shipping.


Model BC457A mil surplus transmitter 4-5.3 Mc. 
Two 1625 finals - all tubes, crystal etc., complete. 
Reduced to $35.00 plus shipping

BC221 Frequency Meter - reduced to $35.00 plus 
shipping.

10 ohm, 300 Watt NON-INDUCTIVE resistors.
Great for RF termination or power testing. These 
will make a very high-powered RF or audio load.
QTY 12 available for $10.00 each plus shipping

11 Pin Octal style Plugs. These are brand new, 
and  look just like a male octal connector, 
chassis mount. Same size only with eleven pins. 
Black plastic,  male. NOTE - these are NOT tube sockets.
QTY 2 available for $4.00 each plus shipping.

15-Pin Cinch-Jones female connector as used on 
Multi Elmac and several other radios - Cable end or 
chassis  style.
Available for $7.00 plus shipping.

Power resistors - 20 KILOHMS at 10 Watts, 5% - 
$3.00 each.

Pictures and details are available at:

http://www.af4k.com/miscpart.htm
AND
http://www.af4k.com/radios.htm


From W8EK at speakeasy.net  Sat Mar 24 11:16:17 2007
From: W8EK at speakeasy.net (Ken Simpson, W8EK)
Date: Sat Mar 24 11:19:14 2007
Subject: [DCboatanchors] CW training manual FS
Message-ID: <00ee01c76e2f$c183b120$f801000a@kendell>


For Sale:

Military CW training manual

This manual has a September 1957 date on it and is Army 
Technical Manual TM 11-459 and Air Force Technical Order 
number TO 31-3-16.  The title is "International Morse Code 
(Instructions)".  It was used to teach morse code, and consists 
of 7 chapters divided into lessons and exercises.  There is also 
info on typing and on using a bug.

This particular book is in extremely good condition.  I would call 
it "Close to new" condition, although it obviously has some years 
on it.  $10

I also found a set of code tapes.  This is a set of 4 cassette tapes 
by Gordon West, and sold by Radio Shack.  It starts with learning 
the code, and goes up thru 13 WPM  "for the General License".
Obviously the description no longer fits, but the tapes would be fine 
if you know someone who is planning to learn the code, even though 
it is no longer required.  The set is in its original binder, and is in
very 
nice condition.  $12

Prices do not include shipping from Florida.

Thanks.

73,

Ken, W8EK

Ken Simpson
E-mail to W8EK@speakeasy.net or W8EK@arrl.net
Voice Phone  (352) 732-8400




From bcarling at cfl.rr.com  Sun Mar 25 06:43:39 2007
From: bcarling at cfl.rr.com (Bry Carling)
Date: Sun Mar 25 06:46:42 2007
Subject: [DCboatanchors] ARRL DROPS UNPOPULAR PROPOSAL
Message-ID: <4606282B.27853.445895@localhost>

In a great defeat for ARRL, they have finally dropped their ill-
advised (and most would agree, silly) proposal to regulate the  
amateur HF bands by the bandwidth of signals rather than by 
mode. Here is a terse (yet caustic) description of the changes 
from Paul, WA3VJB:
= = =

The ARRL, a small, non-profit publishing company in
Newington Connecticut, has abandoned a threat to
impose a system of bandwidth segregation on the
various modes and activities on HF below 10 meters.

In an email to the club's volunteer administrators,
Dave Sumner, the company's highest-paid, unelected
staffer, seems to have acknowledged the overwhelming
opposition arrayed against his group's plan the past
several years.

The threat to AM was specific and unquestionable -- it
would have imposed the first-ever, numerical
constraints on bandwidth without providing a means for
licensees to ensure compliance and ward off
unwarranted complaints from those who do not
participate in this mode and activity.

The scheme would also have characterized AM as a
"footnote" that otherwise would not be in compliance
with their misguided system of bandwidth segregation.

Sumner wrote, in part,

Quote
Regulation by bandwidth rather than by mode of
emission remains controversial below 28 MHz because of
perceived potential impact on established operating
patterns, so these proposals were removed from the
list with one narrow exception.

Those who subscribe to the ARRL can pursue the full
text, which contains several insults and additional
patronizing language to those of us who dared to
question the scheme their group tried to slip through.

Keywords:
--And for the truly paranoid
--don't know all the facts
--making their complaints and threats
--have other motives

It is important to note that the club continues to try
to sneak through the small, remaining portion of their
scheme that opponents had not, until now, chosen to
challenge.

Fresh opposition remarks about the fraction the League
continues to push are now being filed and accepted on
the FCC's Electronic Comment Filing System.

The latest challenges join the carefully considered,
well-reasoned arguments that gave the ARRL a severe
spanking and refuted that group's earlier threat to AM
that they now have abandoned.

This appears to be the system of feedback the group in
Newington prefers.

Paul/VJB





From bcarling at cfl.rr.com  Sun Mar 25 06:51:13 2007
From: bcarling at cfl.rr.com (Bry Carling)
Date: Sun Mar 25 06:54:15 2007
Subject: [DCboatanchors] ARRL changes: League dumps threat to AM
In-Reply-To: <550292.6093.qm@web52807.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <20070324090037.A903885A4C0@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <460629F1.14814.4B44DC@localhost>

Thanks, Paul - excellent commentary from WA3VJB...

The threat to operators of old tube AM and CW rigs is 
somewhat diminished.

To expand and explain slightly - the part they DO want to keep...
They now propose to destroy only ten meters, perhaps figuring 
that since there has been a long sunspot minimum, no one 
will be paying attention...

http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2007/03/23/101/?nc=1

Wa3VJB wrote

> The ARRL, a small, non-profit publishing company in
> Newington Connecticut, has abandoned a threat to
> impose a system of bandwidth segregation on the
> various modes and activities on HF below 10 meters.
> 
> In an email to the club's volunteer administrators,
> Dave Sumner, the company's highest-paid, unelected
> staffer, seems to have acknowledged the overwhelming
> opposition arrayed against his group's plan the past
> several years.
> 
> The threat to AM was specific and unquestionable -- it
> would have imposed the first-ever, numerical
> constraints on bandwidth without providing a means for
> licensees to ensure compliance and ward off
> unwarranted complaints from those who do not
> participate in this mode and activity.
> 
> The scheme would also have characterized AM as a
> "footnote" that otherwise would not be in compliance
> with their misguided system of bandwidth segregation.
> 
> Sumner wrote, in part,
> 
> Quote
> Regulation by bandwidth rather than by mode of
> emission remains controversial below 28 MHz because of
> perceived potential impact on established operating
> patterns, so these proposals were removed from the
> list with one narrow exception.
> 
> Those who subscribe to the ARRL can pursue the full
> text, which contains several insults and additional
> patronizing language to those of us who dared to
> question the scheme their group tried to slip through.
> 
> Keywords:
> --And for the truly paranoid
> --don't know all the facts
> --making their complaints and threats
> --have other motives
> 
> It is important to note that the club continues to try
> to sneak through the small, remaining portion of their
> scheme that opponents had not, until now, chosen to
> challenge.
> 
> Fresh opposition remarks about the fraction the League
> continues to push are now being filed and accepted on
> the FCC's Electronic Comment Filing System.
> 
> The latest challenges join the carefully considered,
> well-reasoned arguments that gave the ARRL a severe
> spanking and refuted that group's earlier threat to AM
> that they now have abandoned.
> 
> This appears to be the system of feedback the group in
> Newington prefers.
> 
> Paul/VJB
> 
> 
>  
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From bcarling at cfl.rr.com  Mon Mar 26 08:26:18 2007
From: bcarling at cfl.rr.com (Bry Carling)
Date: Mon Mar 26 08:29:25 2007
Subject: [DCboatanchors] RE: Gentlemen,
	Start your engines - file comments now!
In-Reply-To: <8CF5209A-8ED2-4CE7-A5F9-5BB8A7F84964@gmail.com>
References: <003601c76efd$7a3a4990$6701a8c0@reformscbc5j0f>
Message-ID: <460791BA.29785.FB0114@localhost>

Thanks for your comments, Jim. Interesting thoughts on all 
of this...

Jim, N6OTQ writes:

> I would get more excited about this if I had a real station and I operated HF every night, and if we weren't at the bottom of the sunspot cycle.? Ask me again in a few 
> years.?

It will be too late by then. Libertarianism taken to extreme coul bring 
you "the wild west" and vigilante justice. 

In the scenario above, JIm - you will likely come back to find bands 
full of digital garbage. It's not so much that anyone objects to the digital 
modes being on HF.
No - rather it is the deliberate CONDONING and FACILITATING 
of very, very bad operating practice by a select few of 
these wantonly obnoxious operators by the ARRL Board which
has continued unabated, against the clearly stated wishes of
the majority of the membership over the past 3 or 4 years.

You can easily read all about this on qrz.com and in other forums.

Your points about the overly-wide AM signals are understandable.
Again, that is a very very tiny minority spoiling things for other people. 
6 to 9 kHz of bandwidth is enough for any amateur AM signal.

Unlike the DIGITAL miscreants, these guys do not operate 
frequency-agile 3KW equipment which pops up all over the HF bands
like the Winlink-Pactor noise does.... if you think wide AM is bad,
watch the bands after the ARRL and FCC are finished with
the future direction they have mapped out for us. 

If you thought the HF "Woodpecker" was annoying back in the 1970s,  
you haven't seen anything yet.   You would pretty soon not even WANT 
to operate SSB any more!

HF Ham radio is going to effectively be reduced to only
allowing "internet via radio waves" SOON, unless SOMEONE
reins in the neurotic behavior of the smoke-filled room in 
Newington.

Jim's other comments (below) are interesting but it would be wise to 
watch ANY new proposal coming out of Newington these days.

By the way Jim, if CB is the example of self-regulation, then we are all in trouble!
(grin)

Jim writes: (QUOTE)
>Yes, one of the ongoing problems involved in the pointless regulation by 
bandwidth but not by mode is the "high-fidelity" AM being transmitted (well, 
broadcast) by a select number of over-amplified and under-brained hams who 
missed the boat in 1959 to be a deejay for one of the "X" radio stations in Mexico ... 
where Wolfman Jack allegedly got his walking shoes.

>It's the spurs on their 120% positive and 95% negative modulation, their audio 
equalization that puts needless energy outside the 300 - 3000 Hz usable speech 
voice band, and the overprocessing and sound effects that sound like bigtime in the 
AM BCB but really have no place in the ham bands.

>If we needed that sort of thing, we'd just let the Indonesian broadcasters pump 
things up another 12,000 kilowatts in 40 meters.? Per station.

>You can have top-quality AM within the existing limits, including the 1500 watt 
PEP max.? But most of these folks aren't even respecting the PEP limit, much less 
traditional bandwidth limits.??But they sure sound great!? Loud, too.? And while it's 
not as annoying as a digital signal that hashes out an entire sub-band, it's still air 
pollution, and still unlawful.

>The FCC has cited a very few of the worst offenders, but it hasn't particularly 
helped.??

>My stance -- we should all be responsible for sensible bandwidth usage.? A?5 kHz 
AM signal is somewhat piggish compared to SSB, but at a reasonable power level 
(minimum power necessary for reliable communication, per FCC since about 1920) 
I can move over ... or join in. But when you're transmitting an audio signal from 50 
to 15,000 Hz on two sidebands, plus the full-power carrier?? 3/4 of that can't even be 
heard by most receivers, but it still pollutes the air and prevents using any 
frequency within 10 kHz of the carrier.

>I'm all for freedom of the air, but we have to share and conserve our limited, 
valuable resources.

JIM, THAT is exactly what we need to ask the FCC to DO, instead of allowing 
ARRL to legalize a few irresponsible ops that want to run roughshod over 
everyone else! If you think that you can reason with these WINLINK
people, then more power to you, because scores of hams, perhaps hundreds 
have tried over the past 4 years and they refuse to act in a responsible manner.

>It's like driving a 40-foot wide house down the highway.

((( A GREAT DESCRIPTION OF PACTOR - WINLINK on HF!! )))

>I do have a little more sympathy for the wide-band AMers, because they could 
tweak down their signal with a few knob turns or resistor additions in the audio 
section.? Digital and non-voice modes, on the other hand, need to be managed by 
sub-bands.

>I would get more excited about this if I had a real station and I operated HF every 
night, and if we weren't at the bottom of the sunspot cycle.? Ask me again in a few 
years.? ?Meantime, I question why both the ARRL and FCC appear to have rejected 
subband regulation and band management.? As a Libertarian, I especially question 
why the ARRL hasn't adopted a stronger stance for voluntary self-regulation and an 
orderly band management policy.? This has worked in the past.? For that matter -- 
even CBers do a reasonably good job of self-enforced band management, but their 
punitive actions are always of a questionable nature.

>Jim N6OTQ


From bcarling at cfl.rr.com  Mon Mar 26 18:13:45 2007
From: bcarling at cfl.rr.com (Bry Carling)
Date: Mon Mar 26 18:16:43 2007
Subject: [DCboatanchors] Re: [MOPAGROUP] RE: Gentlemen,
	Start your engines - file comments now!
In-Reply-To: <1174948938.46084c4a6804d@webmail.ukonline.net>
References: <460791BA.29785.FB0114@localhost>
Message-ID: <46081B69.25026.314D4CB@localhost>

> Winlink is a growing problem . It is effectively 'commercial' operation in
> that the operation is exclusive to those who buy the pactor-loaded modem
> from 
> the originating suppliers..  It encourages swathes of sailing people ( I
> do 
> not blame them ) to do the minimum to get a 'licence' to obtain e-mail by
> radio.Their interest in ham radio is no greater than mine is in gardening
> when 
> I walk through the park. 
> 
> From a 'commercial' viewpoint the German devisers of the system are
> clever, 
> but it should be recognised as commercial use of amateur band-space which
> is 
> to be deplored in my view.
> 
> G3GVB

VERY well put, Brian, and the analogies are excellent...

We just need to get the word out to radio amateurs, but I regretfully
believe that too many of us just have no clue about the values 
that have been held for so long in the amateur radio service.

G3XLQ

From bcarling at cfl.rr.com  Mon Mar 26 19:32:18 2007
From: bcarling at cfl.rr.com (Bry Carling)
Date: Mon Mar 26 19:35:15 2007
Subject: [DCboatanchors] RE: Gentlemen,
	Start your engines - file comments now!
In-Reply-To: <BAY5-DAV4ACF325DC795AFCC607E0CA6F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <46082DD2.19330.35CBE28@localhost>

From: Ray Friess:
> If the truth be known ... I wonder how much of a financial interest the folks at W1AW have in the 
> system. Wouldn?t surprise me if they were getting kickbacks for sales and for pushing it so 
> hard....

> The league has not had the amateurs best interest at heart for many many years... going all the 
> way back to incentive licensing.

You wonder how many?
Well, I was told that two on the digital committee were 
benefiting.  I can't speak for the board, but let's just say 
that it appears to be an incredibly cozy AND exclusive 
"relationship."

AM, CW and tube radios will all be relegated the back seat
if this juggernaut is allowed to continue plowing roughshod
through the field of dreams which was amateur radio. 

From bcarling at cfl.rr.com  Mon Mar 26 19:35:00 2007
From: bcarling at cfl.rr.com (Bry Carling)
Date: Mon Mar 26 19:38:00 2007
Subject: [DCboatanchors] Re: Gentlemen,
	Start your engines - file comments now!
In-Reply-To: <eu9lhb+4bhu@eGroups.com>
References: <46063348.20217.6FC150@localhost>
Message-ID: <46082E74.32569.35F3860@localhost>

This is an excellent comment, Ellen. Thank you for sharing 
your experience. It is not just digital ops who will suffer 
when ARRL tries these unbelievably ill-advised stunts
one after another!

> Yup,I added my comments to the opposition that's building against 
> this proposal.  I run a Hellschreiber net on 80m on Tuesday nights.  
> After the 80m reallociations, it took all of 2 weeks of being blanked 
> out by a Pactor station firing up during our net, to chase us off of  
> 3587 khz, and to another frequency.  That's wrong!  The listening 
> protocals that Pactor stations "use" to prevent them from 
> transmitting on an occupied frequency, are a joke.  It usually 
> doesn't work properly.
> 
> 73,
> Ellen - AF9J


From bcarling at cfl.rr.com  Wed Mar 28 06:59:06 2007
From: bcarling at cfl.rr.com (Bry Carling)
Date: Wed Mar 28 07:02:33 2007
Subject: [DCboatanchors] RE: Gentlemen,
	Start your engines - file comments now!
In-Reply-To: <46086D3D.7070600@allstream.net>
References: <46081B69.25026.314D4CB@localhost>
Message-ID: <460A204A.27522.59BAA4@localhost>

L.M. Picard writes:

> Isn't the idea of a commercial purpose totally inconsistent with AMATEUR
> radio.   E-mail links belong on the _utility bands_ with type-approved 
> equipment aimed at no qualifications appliance operators. 

Yes you are exactly right, but the vast majority of radio 
amateurs have not kept up with what the ARRL and FCC 
have been cooking up in the back rooms over the past 3-4 years 
to give away our HF bands to a tiny group of irresponsible 
digital mode operatorswho use unattended robot stations 
on our bands to circumvent the cost of commercial internet service. 

We really need to educate ourselves and take action.
Otherwise these people whose behavior can best be described 
as "beyond deleterious" to amateur radio will continue to 
erode things in leaps and bounds. We need a clean sweep 
in Newington and Washington, DC. Otherwise it is going 
to be VERY difficult indeed to stop this lunacy.

For more detailed information see:

http://www.zerobeat.net/bandgrab.shtml

http://www.zerobeat.net/bandplan-dissent.html

http://www.eham.net/articles/12335

http://www.qrz.com/ib-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST&f=3&t=72455

The gods of Newington had their insane proposal for 
"regulation by bandwidth of signals" (which was just another 
round in this battle) and it was WIDELY rejected by the 
VAST majority of radio amateurs,  thank God.  Now they 
are trying to save face, by withdrawing the proposal, but at 
the same time still claiming that it was "right!" 

The arrogance is only matched by the stupidity of it all.

If you would like to help, contact Skip Teller KH6TY...

