[From nobody Mon Mar 27 21:23:08 2023 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: George <grmjunior@sbcglobal.net> Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 (1.0) To: CW Reflector <cw@mailman.qth.net> References: <1591D030-9B4D-4A00-8464-9165120E77CB@sbcglobal.net> In-Reply-To: <1591D030-9B4D-4A00-8464-9165120E77CB@sbcglobal.net> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2023 17:53:59 -0500 Message-ID: <10A53FB5-CE04-4DA0-A644-635508075EBC@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-D8B35117-1298-4142-ABE1-FC31896B3836 Subject: Re: [CW] US Navy training speeds - "quals" and performance standards Message: 2 --Apple-Mail-D8B35117-1298-4142-ABE1-FC31896B3836 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry, I failed to identify myself. George N0=CC=B8GM > On Mar 27, 2023, at 5:53 PM, George <grmjunior@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFGraduated from Radio School in San Diego in 1968. As I remember (= long time ago!) to graduate RM's only had to send and receive 18 wpm. (I ac= tually then went to High Speed Morse Code school for a few weeks but quickly= tested out, so I'm guessing that speed was only 25-30 wpm.) Subsequently I= was stationed at NAVCOMSTA Japan for 2 years and sat on a Ship to Shore CW c= ircuit; if one qualified at 30wpm+ and sat on the circuit for a full year, t= hey were gifted a free Vibroplex Speed Key. However, I opted to move on to T= TY / Orestes because I found that more interesting, although CW with the USN= S ships was very enjoyable, several invited me down to visit when they were i= n port Yokosuka. Those merchant ships had lots of chirpy transmitters! >=20 >> On Mar 27, 2023, at 3:50 PM, Chris R. NW6V <chrisrut7@gmail.com> wrote: >>=20 >> =EF=BB=BF >> Greetings group. >>=20 >> To be clear - my admiration of Navy radiomen is extreme - I was raised by= a Navy radioman (Chief Warrant Office 4) and he had me copying and sending 1= 8 WPM code groups fast when I was 11 years old. =20 >>=20 >> Anyway, a fellow recently claimed that in 1986, in the Navy "Internationa= l Morse Code Operator School," he and other students had to be able to SEND a= t 28 WPM on a straight key.=20 >>=20 >> 28 WPM on an SK could win championships - I managed 26 WPM on mixed group= s (in a contest), and it required months of training and was very demanding.= I suspect the fellow is suffering from memory magnifications (the fish we c= atch - and the ones that get away - both grow larger as time passes). My rec= ollection is that the RM3 rating required closer to 18 than 28. >>=20 >> But I prefer facts to recollections. So, a couple of questions.=20 >>=20 >> 1. Do any of you know or have access to the actual "quals" or "performan= ce standards" for the Navy schools or ratings?=20 >>=20 >> 2. Do you know the requirements to be issued a "speed key" certificate? M= y understanding is that there was no official requirement, but that it was d= one somewhat ad hoc on a unit-by-unit basis. >>=20 >> Thanks for the bandwidth. >>=20 >> 73 Chris NW6V >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> ______________________________________________________________ >> CW mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/cw >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:CW@mailman.qth.net >> CW List ARCHIVES: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/cw/ >> Unsubcribe send email to >> cw-unsubscribe@mailman.qth.net >> Subscribe send email to cw-subscribe@mailman.qth.net >> Support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>=20 >> =3D30=3D --Apple-Mail-D8B35117-1298-4142-ABE1-FC31896B3836 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D= utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sor= ry, I failed to identify myself. &nbsp;George&nbsp;<span style=3D"font-famil= y: UICTFontTextStyleBody; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">N0=CC=B8GM</span>= </div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 27, 2023, at 5:5= 3 PM, George &lt;grmjunior@sbcglobal.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></di= v><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<span>Graduated from R= adio School in San Diego in 1968. &nbsp;As I remember (long time ago!) to gr= aduate RM's only had to send and receive 18 wpm. &nbsp;(I actually then went= to High Speed Morse Code school for a few weeks but quickly tested out, so I= 'm guessing that speed was only 25-30 wpm.) &nbsp;&nbsp;Subsequently I was s= tationed at NAVCOMSTA Japan for 2 years and sat on a Ship to Shore CW circui= t; if one qualified at 30wpm+ and sat on the circuit for a full year, they w= ere gifted a free Vibroplex Speed Key. &nbsp;However, I opted to move on to T= TY / Orestes because I found that more interesting, although CW with the USN= S ships was very enjoyable, several invited me down to visit when they were i= n port Yokosuka. &nbsp;Those merchant ships had lots of chirpy transmitters!= </span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>On Mar 27, 2023,= at 3:50 PM, Chris R. NW6V &lt;chrisrut7@gmail.com&gt; wrote:</span><br></bl= ockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote= type=3D"cite"><span>=EF=BB=BF</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"ci= te"><span>Greetings group.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">= <span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>To be clear - m= y admiration of Navy radiomen is extreme - I was raised by a Navy radioman (= Chief Warrant Office 4) and he had me copying and sending 18 WPM code groups= fast when I was 11 years old. &nbsp;</span><br></blockquote><blockquote typ= e=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Any= way, a fellow recently claimed that in 1986, in the Navy "International Mors= e Code Operator School," he and other students had to be able to SEND at 28 W= PM on a straight key. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><spa= n></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>28 WPM on an SK co= uld win championships - I managed 26 WPM on mixed groups (in a contest), and= it required months of training and was very demanding. I suspect the fellow= is suffering from memory magnifications (the fish we catch - and the ones t= hat get away - both grow larger as time passes). My recollection is that the= RM3 rating required closer to 18 than 28.</span><br></blockquote><blockquot= e type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><spa= n>But I prefer facts to recollections. So, a couple of questions. </span><br= ></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><block= quote type=3D"cite"><span>1. Do any of you know or have access to the actual= &nbsp;"quals" or "performance standards" for the Navy schools or ratings? <= /span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquo= te><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>2. Do you know the requirements to be iss= ued a "speed key" certificate? My understanding is that there was no officia= l requirement, but that it was done somewhat ad hoc on a unit-by-unit basis.= </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockqu= ote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Thanks for the bandwidth.</span><br></bl= ockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote= type=3D"cite"><span>73 Chris NW6V</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D= "cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span>= <br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><bl= ockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cit= e"><span>______________________________________________________________</spa= n><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>CW mailing list</span><br= ></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Home: http://mailman.qth.net/m= ailman/listinfo/cw</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>He= lp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type= =3D"cite"><span>Post: mailto:CW@mailman.qth.net</span><br></blockquote><bloc= kquote type=3D"cite"><span>CW List ARCHIVES: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermai= l/cw/</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Unsubcribe send= email to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>cw-unsubscr= ibe@mailman.qth.net</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>S= ubscribe send email to cw-subscribe@mailman.qth.net</span><br></blockquote><= blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/d= onate.html</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br= ></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D30=3D</span><br></blockquot= e></div></blockquote></body></html>= --Apple-Mail-D8B35117-1298-4142-ABE1-FC31896B3836-- ]