[CW] Obsolete Prosigns
Darrel
demerson2718 at gmail.com
Sun Jan 31 18:46:16 EST 2021
A follow up on the historical use of the prosign <VE> as a
"Preliminary call". I recently acquired an original "Signal Card"
document from the Royal Navy, dated 1944.
The front cover has: "R.B.232" and "SIGNAL CARD 1944". The back cover
has "H.M.S. STATIONERY OFFICE PRICE 9P NET". I believe it was
primarily for the British Navy; the first 3 plates, which are all about
flags, include the words "NAVAL SIGNALLING" .
Plates V and VI show Morse code. On Plate VI it includes, under "PROSIGNS":
or "...-. ...-. <VE> GENERAL CALL" .
This is the latest official document I've come across giving this
meaning for <VE>, but I'm sure there must be others.
Cheers,
Darrel, aa7fv.
> ...
>
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 6:51 PM Darrel <demerson2718 at gmail.com
> <mailto:demerson2718 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I already posted this to the [SKCC] group, so apologies for
> posting here too. I thought it might be of particular interest to
> this group.
>
> I've seen queries about the prosign "VE" (or equally "SN") come
> up from time to time. Now, ""VE" means in all contexts
> "Understood", but it wasn't always that way everywhere. Very
> occasionally, an old timer can be heard lapsing into this earlier
> usage.
>
>
> See "Obsolete Morse Code Prosigns" on
> https://wiki2.org/en/Prosigns_for_Morse_code#cite_note-:4-25
> There's a reference to "1937 Royal Navy Signal Card". *"VE General
> call . . . _ . Code re-used for "Message verified" or "Message
> understood" (see SN above). "* If you follow the links to that
> references given on that Wiki page, there's a photo of the 1937
> Royal Canadian Signal Card with VE defined as above, and also to
> the Royal Navy Signal Card, with a similar definition of VE as a
> "General Call". When I grew up using Morse, in the early 1960s, I
> suspect there were many ex-Royal Navy (and ex British Army)
> operators on the ham bands, who used the prosigns they had been
> taught. Hence, I grew up with "VE" meaning "General Call". I don't
> think either the Royal Navy or the Royal Canadian Navy felt
> particularly bound at the time by any commercial handbook or
> agreed international definition. I also found a reference to "VE"
> meaning "General Call" in an old Boy Scouts manual. I'm guessing
> that may date from Baden Powell and the Boer War. As this Wiki
> page says, these are "Obsolete Morse Code Prosigns", even though
> they were in common usage on one side of the Atlantic at one time.
> I do try to resist using them now, although not always
> successfully. Just for possible historical interest. Cheers,
> Darrel, aa7fv & g3sys.
>
>
>
> From https://wiki2.org/en/Prosigns_for_Morse_code
>
>
> From
> https://hatchfive.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/e676af9a-0708-4c10-bbe1-fce8667ea652.jpg
> The 1937 Royal Navy Signal Card
>
>
>
> From the 1937 Royal Canadian Navy Signal Card
> http://www.forposterityssake.ca/RCN-DOCS/SIGNAL_CARD_1937.htm
>
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