[CW] Soviet Russian Radiotelegraph Practice during WWII

Jude DaShiell jdashiel at panix.com
Fri Oct 30 18:10:04 EDT 2020


I sent that already, and here's a little more.
The Russian Embassy in Washington D.C. had all of its message traffic
read from the end of World War II. into 1948.  The reason for that was
the Embassy staff was too lazy to change their one time pad ciphers
after each use.  When United States Cryptographers figured this out, the
intercept people had a field day.

On Fri, 30 Oct 2020, William Harris wrote:

> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2020 17:56:43
> From: William Harris <w7kxb1 at gmail.com>
> To: CW Reflector <cw at mailman.qth.net>
> Cc: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>
> Subject: Re: [CW] Soviet Russian Radiotelegraph Practice during WWII
>
> Title of book, please.
> de.Bill/w7kxb   .   .
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 10:54 PM D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea at arrl.net> wrote:
>
> > I'm reading the book now! He's a fabulous writer!  All about the SOE
> > written by an insider!
> >
> > I love the beginning. You can preview the book on Amazon.
> >
> > It's brilliant!
> >
> > 73
> >
> > DR
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 23, 2020, 07:36 Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Book recommendation "Between Silk And Cyanide" By Leo Marx.
> >> On Thu, 22 Oct
> >> 2020, n7dc at comcast.net wrote:
> >>
> >> > Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 14:23:56
> >> > From: n7dc at comcast.net
> >> > Reply-To: CW Reflector <cw at mailman.qth.net>
> >> > To: CW Reflector <cw at mailman.qth.net>, "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <
> >> n1ea at arrl.net>
> >> > Subject: Re: [CW] Soviet Russian Radiotelegraph Practice during WWII
> >> >
> >> > Not sure if there was something before that brought up this question,
> >> but you are mostly right.  Our own intercept ops had lists of foreign
> >> freqs/schedule times, so am sure the Russians had the same.  Most ops were
> >> assigned specific nets, but a few were general search specialists, who just
> >> continually looked around for anything.  We copied a few minute, until the
> >> signals could be identified, and then moved on to other targets.  If
> >> something new popped up, then it was listed as a "regular target, and
> >> assigned to another full time op.  As for US forces, the cw nets stayed
> >> within certain parameters, for the given time of day, and would QSY when
> >> one freq started giving out.  Lots of guess work as to what they would go
> >> to, but always the net control would give out a new frequency, right on the
> >> air.  Using one-time-pad crypto, it didnt matter
> >> >  when or if someone else copied it, they couldnt break it.
> >> >
> >> > N7DC at COMCAST.NET
> >> > Ex WN5QMX,WA5UKR,ET2US,ET3USA,SV0WPP,VS6DD,N7DC/YV5/G5CTB
> >> > QSL Bureau, DIRECT, LOTW Preferred, eQSL used but upload at a courtesy
> >> only, as do not use the system for awards.
> >> >
> >> > > On 10/21/2020 9:50 PM D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea at arrl.net> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > DOES ANYONE KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT?
> >> > >
> >> > > Question from the Morsecode.qth.net email list:
> >> > >
> >> > >  If the enemy could find one frequency, what would keep them from
> >> > > finding the other?
> >> > >
> >> > > My answer:
> >> > >
> >> > > Only time, they'd have to find the first frequency then  the second
> >> > > frequency in a matter of minutes.  Both frequencies were kept "secret"
> >> > > with books like code books.  I don't know all the details of this,
> >> > > I'll ask on the CW list if anyone knows more.
> >> > >
> >> > > 73
> >> > > DR
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