[CW] Obsolete Prosigns

[D.J.J. Ring, Jr.]

II was used for "inline collation" or routine repetition of possibly
misunderstood text.

CHATHAM RADIO/WCC used it often in the press (PX) broadcasts, one famously
funny was:

ROME (AP) - POPE JOHN PAUL II II II TODAY DECLARED ROCCO PETROS TO BE HEAD
OF THE SWISS GUARD IN A CEREMONY HELD AT NOON IN THE SISTINE CHAPEL PETROS
AND HIS ASSISTANT DENAUGHITALIS II DENAUGHITALIS WERE BOTH ACCEPTED INTO
THE SWISS GUARD IN 1992.

They repeated the designator II after Pope John Paul II with the II repeat
signal and then sent II again.  It nearly confused me completely, but I
figured it out mostly because I knew his title was followed by II, but it
made me laugh because it almost didn't need to be sent, His name was so
common.

I don't see SN the last published ACP-124D which was WT procedures for
radiotelegraphy in http://www.navy-radio.com/manuals/acp/acp124d.pdf

SN always meant "Understood" and may have been defined in Appendix B of the
ITU Maritime Mobile and Satellite Service Handbook - supplemental appendix
for Morse transmitted and received by ear by either tone or sounder.

73
DR

On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 6:51 PM Darrel <demerson2718 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I already posted this to the [SKCC] group, so apologies for posting here
> too.  I thought it might be of particular interest to this group.
>
> I've seen queries about the prosign "VE"  (or equally "SN") come up from
> time to time.  Now, ""VE" means in all contexts "Understood", but it wasn't
> always that way everywhere.  Very occasionally, an old timer can be heard
> lapsing into this earlier usage.
>
>
> See "Obsolete Morse Code Prosigns" on
> https://wiki2.org/en/Prosigns_for_Morse_code#cite_note-:4-25 There's a
> reference to "1937 Royal Navy Signal Card". *"VE General call . . . _ .
> Code re-used for "Message verified" or "Message understood" (see SN above).
> "* If you follow the links to that references given on that Wiki page,
> there's a photo of the 1937 Royal Canadian Signal Card with VE defined as
> above, and also to the Royal Navy Signal Card, with a similar definition of
> VE as a "General Call". When I grew up using Morse, in the early 1960s, I
> suspect there were many ex-Royal Navy (and ex British Army) operators on
> the ham bands, who used the prosigns they had been taught. Hence, I grew up
> with "VE" meaning "General Call". I don't think either the Royal Navy or
> the Royal Canadian Navy felt particularly bound at the time by any
> commercial handbook or agreed international definition. I also found a
> reference to "VE" meaning "General Call" in an old Boy Scouts manual. I'm
> guessing that may date from Baden Powell and the Boer War. As this Wiki
> page says, these are "Obsolete Morse Code Prosigns", even though they were
> in common usage on one side of the Atlantic at one time. I do try to resist
> using them now, although not always successfully. Just for possible
> historical interest. Cheers, Darrel, aa7fv & g3sys.
>
>
>
> From https://wiki2.org/en/Prosigns_for_Morse_code
>
>
> From
> https://hatchfive.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/e676af9a-0708-4c10-bbe1-fce8667ea652.jpg
> The 1937 Royal Navy Signal Card
>
>
>
> From the 1937 Royal Canadian Navy Signal Card
> http://www.forposterityssake.ca/RCN-DOCS/SIGNAL_CARD_1937.htm
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