[CW] Early Radio Operator Licensing

Wed Aug 26 08:26:38 EDT 2020

Might check out this site:

http://www.navy-radio.com/commsta-prewar.htm

73, Doc - K2PHD

> On Aug 26, 2020, at 12:53 AM, Richard Knoppow <1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
>    I have this book and have read most of it in detail. IMO one of the best sources of wireless history. It is also available free on line from a couple of sources.
> 
>> On 8/25/2020 2:20 PM, Thomas Chirhart wrote:
>> Find a copy of “History of Radio Communications and Electronics in the US Navy” My copy is loaned out to a 80plus year old retired Navy Captain down the street. He was a Navy communicator at several NAVCOMMSTA’s back in the 60’s... great read ...
>> Tom
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 25, 2020, at 5:01 PM, Richard Knoppow <1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   How did you happen to know the answers? I know a little about arc and spark but that's because I am interested in wireless history. I suspect many younger people have never heard of them.
>>>    Many years ago a friend and mentor built a working rotary arc for a museum exhibit. I got to key it. No wonder they were called rock crushers.
>>>    Its interesting that the FCC had such old tests.
>>> 
>>>> On 8/25/2020 12:31 PM, Thomas Chirhart wrote:
>>>> When I took the Radio Telegraph exam in San Juan PR FCC offices in 1983 the exam was dated 1947. It had a bunch of spark gap questions. Thankfully I knew those questions and passed..
>>>> 73 Tom K4NCG
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 25, 2020, at 2:35 PM, Richard Knoppow <1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>    FWIW, the code requirment was in effect when the "Radio Handook" 1928 edition by Sterling was published. 30WPM Continental and 20WPM American Morse, the latter read from a sounder. I have also see requirements for reading code groups as well as plain language. I will try to find the sources. In 1928 the holder of a Commercial Extra First could operate _any_ transmitter, including broadcast transmitters. For many years many broadcast stations used code to communicate among control rooms. I remember seeing keys at KFI, locally. Not sure how they were read, tone or maybe a flashing light.
>>>>>    The main reason the Society of Broadcast Engineers established the Broadcast Technologist certificate was to compensate for the degradation in requirements to get an FCC license.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8/24/2020 9:05 PM, Richard Knoppow wrote:
>>>>>>    I wonder if any copies of the exams survive.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 8/24/2020 8:55 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
>>>>>>> I remember Slidell Radio advertising for operators, they always had
>>>>>>> the highest standards, I also remember seeing advertisements for "The
>>>>>>> Great White Fleet" in "QST" when I was young.  These high standards
>>>>>>> didn't start late in the century, far from it, this is from Department
>>>>>>> of Commerce Radio Service Bulletin May 1916.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> COMMERCIAL EXTRA FIRST-GRADE LICENSES FOR OPERATORS ON UNITED FRUIT CO. SHIPS.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Under date of January 26, 1916, the Tropical Radio Telegraph Co.
>>>>>>> issued the following circular pointing out to operators on United
>>>>>>> Fruit Co. ships the desirability of securing commercial extra first
>>>>>>> grade licenses:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> TO ALL OPERATORS:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ship operators are again reminded that it is highly desirable to hold
>>>>>>> the extra first-grade commercial operators' licenses issued by the
>>>>>>> Department of Commerce.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The possession of such a license is a distinct mark of ability, and in
>>>>>>> considering men for promotion to positions as chief operators on board
>>>>>>> ship, as well as trick operators at shore stations, those holding an
>>>>>>> extra grade license will be given preference regardless of their
>>>>>>> length of service.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In general, it should be the aim of every radio operator on board a
>>>>>>> United Fruit Co.
>>>>>>> ship to hold an extra grade license.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Operators who obtain an extra grade license should notify the general
>>>>>>> office promptly, giving the license number and date issued.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yours very truly,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> GEO. S. Davis,
>>>>>>> General Superintendent.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The commercial extra first-grade license is the highest class of
>>>>>>> license, and is issued by the Department of Commerce to radio
>>>>>>> operators who pass a special examination demonstrating unusual
>>>>>>> experience and skill. These licenses are given consideration by the
>>>>>>> Civil Service Commission in examinations for positions requiring
>>>>>>> knowledge of radiotelegraphy when experience is rated as a part of
>>>>>>> such examinations. To be eligible for the examination for the
>>>>>>> commercial extra first-grade license applicants must hold commercial
>>>>>>> first-grade licenses, and their certificates of skill in radio
>>>>>>> communication, issued under the act of June 24, 1910, or licenses
>>>>>>> under the act of August 13, 1912, must record 18 months' satisfactory
>>>>>>> commercial service at sea or at land stations, either or both, during
>>>>>>> the two years previous to the filing of the application for
>>>>>>> examination, as shown by endorsement on the license service records,
>>>>>>> or other satisfactory evidence, and provided that the applicants have
>>>>>>> not been penalized for a violation of the radio laws and regulations.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> A speed of at least 30 words per minute, Continental Morse, and 25
>>>>>>> words per minute, American Morse (five letters to the word), must be
>>>>>>> attained. The technical questions and the questions of the radio laws
>>>>>>> and regulations will be considerably wider in scope than those for
>>>>>>> commercial first grade, and a higher percentage will be required.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> All examination papers, including the code test sheets, are marked and
>>>>>>> forwarded to the Commissioner of Navigation with a recommendation by
>>>>>>> the radio inspector or examining officer. Examination papers are
>>>>>>> marked upon the basis of 100, and licenses are recommended only if 80
>>>>>>> or better is attained.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 30 WPM Continental Morse, and 25 WPM American Morse!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>> DR
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