[CW] DO you want to see WWV go away?

D.J.J. Ring, Jr. n1ea at arrl.net
Sun Aug 19 14:26:07 EDT 2018


Arguments are to be stopped.

If anyone wants to sign the petition, do so.   If you don't want to, for
whatever reason, do so.

Each side has reasonable arguments.

I side with caution as I was a merchant sailor and we didn't have the
excellent back up that our Navy and other armed forces have.

Also, just to say it, not for an argument.

It was very difficult to receive the other time ticks when near USA.
Russia was the best, China I rarely heard, Hawaii came in clearly until we
came near Japan - and JJY was still on the air, so I used that, 8.000 MHz
was the best frequency.

Near Hong Kong, I could rarely get a time tick, but VPS in HK sent out ONE
time tick a day at 1200 local time or 0800Z on 500 kHz.

CQ CQ CQ DE VPS VPS VPS NW HONG KONG TIME TICKS DIT DIT DIT DIT DIT DIT DIT
DIT DIT DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH DE VPS +

Maybe it lasted 10 seconds, but you get the idea.

73


On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 1:59 PM, Radio KØHB <kzerohb at gmail.com> wrote:

> Of course rig calibration in not the only use of WWV.
>
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> I’m a retired blue water mariner.  In other words, a “serious” user of WWV
> over several decades.
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> I know of no service provided by WWV that isn’t readily available from
> multiple other sources (which do not consume millions of my tax dollars
> every year.)
>
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>
> The “check propagation” excuse is particularly lame, especially for hams.
> Using WWV/WWVH you can check propagation to exactly 2 locations in the
> world, and none of them on amateur frequencies.  The NCDXF/IARU beacon
> system (https://www.ncdxf.org/beacon/beaconlocations.html) provides
> propagation beacons on 5 amateur bands and from nearly 20 locations
> worldwide on every continent.  Each beacon is transmitted at 4 power levels
> between 100mW and 100W.
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> For those hams who have no other source of accurate time, may I suggest
> CHU, JJY, BPM, RWM, or ATA.  Like WWV, the transmit accurate time on
> multiple MF/HF frequencies, all at 10KW, none of them on my tax dollar.
>
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> 73, de Hans, KØHB
> "Just a boy and his radio"™
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> *From: *n7dc at comcast.net
> *Sent: *Sunday, August 19, 2018 5:27 PM
> *To: *sbjohnston at aol.com; CW Reflector <cw at mailman.qth.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [CW] DO you want to see WWV go away?
>
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> Calibration of rigs is not the only use of WWV.  Most people use it to
> simply check the time against their clocks, even in this age of computers,
> as not everyone has one available.  It is also used to check out
> propagation.  You listen to the different freqs, and that tells you what is
> open to their particular area.
>
> N7DC at ARRL.NET
> Ex WN5QMX,WA5UKR,ET2US,ET3USA,SV0WPP,VS6DD,N7DC/YV5/G5CTB
> QSL Bureau, DIRECT, LOTW Preferred, eQSL used but upload at a courtesy
> only, as do not use the system for awards.
>
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