[CW] FCC MM Rule Making 13-249 AM Broadcast

Danny Douglas via CW cw at mailman.qth.net
Mon Jan 5 17:18:15 EST 2015


  I spent 4 years in Ethiopia (Something around 40 year lifespan there) 
and 6 in England, so what is mine going to be?  Then throw in 2 in Hong 
Kong, 2 in Venezuela, 3 in Greece- so it is all askance.
Danny
n7dc at comcast.net

> KA4INM via CW <mailto:cw at mailman.qth.net>
> Monday, January 05, 2015 5:10 PM
>> */Hi Bry,/*
>
>> It all depends upon your source of such info...
>
>> Cruising the net, here's what I found re. male life expectancies:
>
>> CANADA              80.4
>> United Kingdom       79.5
>> U.S.A.               77.4
>
>> There are lies, /damned lies/, and */STATISTICS/*, I guess...! Hi Hi
>
>   I'm not Bry, but I know (and most people don't) that over 50% of 
> everyone born (anywhere) fail to live to be 65 years old.
>   (which is why that age was chosen for social security payments to 
> begin.  50% of the social security "contributions" are free for the 
> government to spend.)
> Eddy Swynar via CW <mailto:cw at mailman.qth.net>
> Monday, January 05, 2015 4:27 PM
>
> On 2015-01-05, at 4:16 PM, AF4K via CW wrote:
>
>
>
> */Hi Bry,/*
>
> It all depends upon your source of such info...
>
> Cruising the net, here's what I found re. male life expectancies:
>
> CANADA              80.4
> United Kingdom   79.5
> U.S.A.                  77.4
>
> There are lies, /damned lies/, and */STATISTICS/*, I guess...! Hi Hi
>
> */~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ/*
>
>
>
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> AF4K via CW <mailto:cw at mailman.qth.net>
> Monday, January 05, 2015 4:16 PM
> The was no fee or receiver tax for shortwave listeners.  RSGB issued 
> my callsign for the free. I think that was part of the incentive for 
> young experimenters to become licensed radio amateurs.  The only 
> "receiver tax" there is on household broadcast band radios and 
> televisions and it covers the whole household, and everyone pays it. 
> So nothing extra for the kid with the funny radios. In exchange for 
> paying that license for radio and TV we got a nice subscription to the 
> Radio & TV Times Magazine. It was much better than the little "TV 
> Guide" you could buy in USA until a few years ago.
>
> I am not sure why the USA banned amateurs form using A2. It's a grreat 
> mode in the right circumstances.
>
> By the way, men in Britain live on average over a year longer than 
> here in the USA.
> Some are surprised to know:
>
> Average life of a man in USA:  79.8
> Average life of a man in UK:    81
>
> 73 de AF4K / WB4FPH / G3XLQ/W4,  A4941
>
> Bry
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> On 5 Jan 2015 at 16:04, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
>
> I was speaking on both modulated and keyed A2 modulated continuous 
> wave.  I do not know if the keyed variety would blank the receiver.
> The modulated and not keyed carrier type was and is used for non 
> directional beacons (NDB) heard from 300 to 400 kHz.
> A4941 was what you received for your Short Wave Listener (SWL) 
> receiver tax, remember?  None of that over here.
> UK amateurs can use A2 on HF, Canadians cam, we cannot.
> 73
> David
> On Jan 5, 2015 3:38 PM, <_bcarling at cfl.rr.com_ 
> <mailto:bcarling at cfl.rr.com>> wrote:
> Thanks Richard,
>
> Well this may sound odd but I distinctly remember hearing quite a bit 
> of MCW on the HF
> bandds in the 1960s and early 1970s. I think perhaps even hams were 
> using it. I loved how it
> would BLANK the receiver and you could listen to CW with zero noise. 
> Maybe it was all while
> I lived in England growing up though...
>
> Some of my listening was done in those early days in the Cambridge 
> area, using a fine
> Hallicrafters S39 and also with a nice old R1155A receiver.
>
> Both worked exceedingly well for this young SWL designated as "A4941" 
> by the RSGB which
> expertly administered the registration of all SWLs back then!
>
>
> On 5 Jan 2015 at 10:52, Richard Knoppow wrote:
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brian Carling via CW" <_cw at mailman.qth.net_ 
> <mailto:cw at mailman.qth.net>>
> > To: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <_n1ea at arrl.net_ <mailto:n1ea at arrl.net>>; "CW 
> Reflector"
> > <_cw at mailman.qth.net_ <mailto:cw at mailman.qth.net>>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 7:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CW] FCC MM Rule Making 13-249 AM Broadcast
> >
> >
> > I MISS hearing MCW!!
> >
> > Best regards - Brian Carling
> > AF4K Crystals Co.
> > 117 Sterling Pine St.
> > Sanford, FL 32773
> >
> > Tel: +USA _321-262-5471_ <tel:321-262-5471>
> >
> >     I occasionally hear "spy" stations sending MCW. Not
> > messages of course, just code groups. MCW for general
> > communication was banned long ago but was still used for
> > distress traffic on 500 Khz.  The RCA station in Los
> > Angeles, KSE used to run MCW on its 500 Khz announcements. I
> > don't know what they used but they would come on in plain CW
> > and the modulation would come up gradually as thought a tube
> > heater was started.  I never heard MCW anywhere else but, of
> > course, I didn't hear that many LF stations with my
> > makeshift regenerator.
> >     I used to hear some perfectly awful signals from ships,
> > probably fishing boats, rough, youping stuff. I have no idea
> > what sort of equipment they had.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Richard Knoppow
> > Los Angeles
> > WB6KBL
> > _dickburk at ix.netcom.com_ <mailto:dickburk at ix.netcom.com>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Richard Knoppow
> > Los Angeles
> > WB6KBL
> > _dickburk at ix.netcom.com_ <mailto:dickburk at ix.netcom.com>
> >
>
>
>
> Brian Carling, Radio AF4K
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> Steve WD8DAS via CW <mailto:cw at mailman.qth.net>
> Sunday, January 04, 2015 2:18 PM
>
> David -
>
> While I *love* analog amplitude modulation, I can speak from personal 
> experience that all-digital broadcasting using the iBiquity non-hybrid 
> mode is a highly effective system. My personal experimentation as well 
> as involvement in the industry has shown me that the existing HD 
> receivers know what to do with the all-digital signal and the range is 
> excellent and the audio is high-fidelity. I have long been a supporter 
> of hybrid HD on both AM and FM bands, and have had it do well on my 
> stations - with the exception of disappointing table-top and portable 
> receiver availability.
>
> The receiver problem is a reflection of the poor market for any 
> consumer radios, not just HD.  The makers of high-volume consumer 
> electronics have nearly zero interest in building anything but the 
> very cheapest radios.  And zero interesting in making higher-quality 
> radio receivers of any kind, digital or analog.  These companies see 
> very little demand for new radios - there are millions and millions of 
> radios already in homes across the country.  Look at the radio 
> selection in a your local Walmart, Target or BestBuy.  There might be 
> one or two cheap analog radios for sale.  It is not surprising that 
> the radios makers are not willing to introduce new models at higher 
> prices.  The only exception to this trend are auto radios - and most 
> of the new radios coming out now are actually getting better and 
> include HD.  Huge numbers of car radios with HD capability are being 
> sold right now - that offers some hope.
>
> Given that the vast majority of AM stations have very few listeners, 
> and are losing money and will go off the air if the owners see no path 
> to future success, it is time to allow broadcasters to make the choice 
> to give all-digital a try.  Niche formats often have listeners willing 
> to work a bit to get a radio to receive their favorite kind of 
> programming - we see this with people getting HD radios to hear the 
> second and third channels of hybrid digital FM stations.
>
> An extra bonus - having some AM band stations go all-digital will 
> actually reduce interference on the band, as it will eliminate some of 
> the analog splatter and the hybrid carriers on second-adjacent 
> channels  The digital transmitters focus the energy tightly around the 
> center frequency, fully within the allocated channel.
>
>
> Steve WD8DAS
>
> sbjohnston at aol.com
> http://www.wd8das.net/
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