[CW] Charts of Radio Morse and American Wire Morse.

Fri Oct 31 17:36:17 EDT 2014

HI DAVID

LOOKS LIKE A SIMPLE LIST.  CLICKING ON ANY NEWS WIRE DOES NOT WORK FOR ME.
ONLY ACTIVE LINK IS ONE FOR SERVER INFO.

RUNNING FIREFOX FOR LINUX.  MAYBE THAT IS THE PROBLEM?
73
BENNY K5KV

On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 3:19 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. via CW <cw at mailman.qth.net
> wrote:

> Decades?  Oh, my.  That's a long time, or it used to be!
>
> Listen into the wires!
>
> kob.sdf.org/morsekob/morsekob30/index.htm
>
> Make sure Circuit Closer (the switch on your straight key or bug that
> shorts the line closed) is ticked off - that's how you listen as the
> circuit is connected, you transmit by breaking the circuit.
>
> Select the Wire Number - 11 is often used for chats - and click
> Connect.  Be sure to fill in the Station Name - you might see "FB (Ed
> in Fairbanks, Alaska)" or other operators.  The idea is that you're a
> dispatcher at a railroad station!
>
> Works on Windows, Mac, Linux - any OS that Java works on!
>
> Wire 123 has 30 wpm American Morse Headlines.
>
> 73
> DR
>
> 73
> David N1EA
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 4:00 PM, abqcooks--- via CW <cw at mailman.qth.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > A few decades ago I used to hear an American Morse net weekly on 40m.
> > Don't hear any on radio anymore but it's alive and well on the internet
> > which now serves as "the wire".  Check out the Morse Telegraph Club
> website
> > for info.
> > It's easy to interface a key and sounder to your computer.  Learning to
> copy
> > American on the sounder takes some time....but jump in....there are still
> > ops to talk to on the " wire".  Jim
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Donald Chester via CW" <cw at mailman.qth.net>
> > To: <cw at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CW] Charts of Radio Morse and American Wire
> > Morse.
> >
> >
> >> There used to be, and maybe still is if any members are
> >> still kicking, a
> >> group of  hams who practised American landline Morse in a
> >> net on 80m.
> >> Probably old time railway operators. As I recall, they
> >> ID'ed in
> >> International Morse, but carried on their net in American
> >> Morse.
> >>
> >> Johnny Johnston, who had retired from the FCC and who is
> >> well known by the
> >> AM phone community as the guy who instigated a steady
> >> stream of RM proposals
> >> during his 25-year tenure that would have severely
> >> restricted amateur AM or
> >> eliminated it altogether, claimed in an article he wrote
> >> that American Morse
> >> is illegal to use on the ham bands because, according to
> >> the Part 97 rules,
> >> CW is defined as "on and off keying, using International
> >> Morse code". He
> >> claimed it was illegal to transmit American Morse because
> >> it does not fit
> >> the FCC's definition of CW.
> >>
> >> The president of a telegrapher-hobbyist club contacted the
> >> FCC regarding the
> >> article. They basically told him to ignore that guy
> >> because he no longer
> >> works for the FCC and no longer has any say over what is
> >> legal on the ham
> >> bands.  I talked to one of the  guys in the club at Dayton
> >> and exchanged
> >> e-mails with another member and that's what they told me.
> >> Pretty  sad... the
> >> guy tried his best to screw over a group of hams while he
> >> was at the FCC,
> >> and once he retired, was still at it, trying to screw over
> >> another group of
> >> hams.
> >>
> >> There is enough similarity between the codes that one
> >> probably  could follow
> >> the gist of the conversation if one knew only the other
> >> code, kind of like
> >> someone who speaks Spanish  can get the gist of a
> >> conversation in Italian
> >> and vice versa.  I was surprised how easily I could
> >> understand regular
> >> International Morse when transmitted to an old fashioned
> >> land-line sounder
> >> during a demonstration. I don't know if I could decipher
> >> much of a message
> >> in American Morse transmitted to a sounder, though.
> >>
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Don k4kyv
> >>
> >       Many years ago I worked American Morse with an old
> > time railroad operator. I doubt if I could read it now, at
> > least without considerable practice, although its really not
> > very much different than Continental Morse.  Reading either
> > from a sounder is something else. I have a few sounders and
> > have run them from a tape transmitter using Continental
> > Morse. Its like learning Morse all over again but that's
> > just me and my hearing is not what it used to be. A sounder
> > in a resonator is LOUD!  Makes you wonder what a large
> > telegraph office must have sounded like.
> >       As far as the legality I am not so certain that any
> > code that is not a cipher is illegal provided stations are
> > identified correctly. What ever this guy says it would take
> > an attempted prosecution and court case to determine what
> > the law really is. The FCC makes _rules_ but those can be
> > challenged in court.
> >       BTW, if this is the fellow who created the power limit
> > rule for AM he is just out of it. I don't know if that
> > definition of AM power has ever been challenged legally but
> > it should be because it doesn't make any sense.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Richard Knoppow
> > Los Angeles
> > WB6KBL
> > dickburk at ix.netcom.com
> >
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