[CW] CW Digest, Vol 114, Issue 8
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Fri Oct 25 12:34:00 EDT 2013
Broadcast us the Navy transmission to all ships suimltaneosly on multiple freqs
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> 1. Re: Navy Radiomans Mid Watch (Ken Brown)
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> 3. Re: Navy Radiomans Mid Watch (Rick Dettinger)
> 4. Re: Navy Radiomans Mid Watch (Mark K3MSB)
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> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 20:11:32 -1000
> From: Ken Brown <ken.d.brown at hawaiiantel.net>
> To: CW Reflector <cw at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [CW] Navy Radiomans Mid Watch
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> I'm not an old time Navy RM, and I still enjoyed it. I have a few
> questions about some of the terminology. I'd like to understand it
> better. In this context, what does "broadcast" mean?
> What are "beach fivers"? Is "COMBAT" an acronym for something? Oboes?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ken N6KB
>
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> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:11:26 -0000
> From: "Radio K0HB" <kzerohb at gmail.com>
> To: "CW Reflector" <cw at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [CW] Navy Radiomans Mid Watch
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> I could tell you those things, Ken, but then I'd have to kill you. <grin>
>
> Not really. I'll treat your points one at a time:
>
> "Broadcast": This refers to the Fleet Broadcast, a one-way circuit that all
> ships copied. It was the means that record traffic ("messages" as opposed
> to tactical real time communications) was delivered to ships. You copied
> this circuit 24/7/365. Originally this was a CW circuit (the "Fox"
> broadcast you may have heard of). In the 1950's it switched to RTTY, and
> eventually to FDM.
>
> "Beach fivers": The "beach" is the shore station in a ship-to-shore
> circuit. Circuit condition is expressed in QSA/QRK (our equivalent of the
> ham RST) "Fivers" is short hand for QSA5/QRK5, or "loud and clear".
>
> "COMBAT": The Combat Information Center, also often called "CIC". They
> were a big customer of radio circuits, tactical voice circuits and NTDS data
> circuits.
>
> "Oboes": Military messages were assigned a precedence, depending on how
> urgent they were, and that precedence had a letter designator. There were 6
> levels of precedence; Deferred = "M", Routine = "R", Priority = "P",
> Operational Immediate = "O", Emergency = "Y", and Flash = "Z". The term
> "Oboe" referred to the "O" precedence designator.
>
> 73, de Hans, K0HB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Brown
> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 6:11 AM
> To: CW Reflector
> Subject: Re: [CW] Navy Radiomans Mid Watch
>
> I'm not an old time Navy RM, and I still enjoyed it. I have a few
> questions about some of the terminology. I'd like to understand it
> better. In this context, what does "broadcast" mean?
> What are "beach fivers"? Is "COMBAT" an acronym for something? Oboes?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ken N6KB
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 08:23:39 -0700
> From: Rick Dettinger <k7mw78 at gmail.com>
> To: CW Reflector <cw at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [CW] Navy Radiomans Mid Watch
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> And, Mid Watch refers to the Watch that goes from midnight to 4 AM local time.
>
> 73,
> Rick Dettinger K7MW
> In Western Washington, where its just past eight bells in the Morning Watch.
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>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 8:11 AM, Radio K0HB wrote:
>>
>> I could tell you those things, Ken, but then I'd have to kill you. <grin>
>>
>> Not really. I'll treat your points one at a time:
>>
>> "Broadcast": This refers to the Fleet Broadcast, a one-way circuit that all ships copied. It was the means that record traffic ("messages" as opposed to tactical real time communications) was delivered to ships. You copied this circuit 24/7/365. Originally this was a CW circuit (the "Fox" broadcast you may have heard of). In the 1950's it switched to RTTY, and eventually to FDM.
>>
>> "Beach fivers": The "beach" is the shore station in a ship-to-shore circuit. Circuit condition is expressed in QSA/QRK (our equivalent of the ham RST) "Fivers" is short hand for QSA5/QRK5, or "loud and clear".
>>
>> "COMBAT": The Combat Information Center, also often called "CIC". They were a big customer of radio circuits, tactical voice circuits and NTDS data circuits.
>>
>> "Oboes": Military messages were assigned a precedence, depending on how urgent they were, and that precedence had a letter designator. There were 6 levels of precedence; Deferred = "M", Routine = "R", Priority = "P", Operational Immediate = "O", Emergency = "Y", and Flash = "Z". The term "Oboe" referred to the "O" precedence designator.
>>
>> 73, de Hans, K0HB
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Ken Brown
>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 6:11 AM
>> To: CW Reflector
>> Subject: Re: [CW] Navy Radiomans Mid Watch
>>
>> I'm not an old time Navy RM, and I still enjoyed it. I have a few
>> questions about some of the terminology. I'd like to understand it
>> better. In this context, what does "broadcast" mean?
>> What are "beach fivers"? Is "COMBAT" an acronym for something? Oboes?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ken N6KB
>>
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 11:31:05 -0400
> From: Mark K3MSB <mark.k3msb at gmail.com>
> To: CW Reflector <cw at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [CW] Navy Radiomans Mid Watch
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> Thanks Hans!
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> Mark K3MSB
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>> On Oct 25, 2013 11:11 AM, "Radio K0HB" <kzerohb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I could tell you those things, Ken, but then I'd have to kill you. <grin>
>>
>> Not really. I'll treat your points one at a time:
>>
>> "Broadcast": This refers to the Fleet Broadcast, a one-way circuit that
>> all ships copied. It was the means that record traffic ("messages" as
>> opposed to tactical real time communications) was delivered to ships. You
>> copied this circuit 24/7/365. Originally this was a CW circuit (the "Fox"
>> broadcast you may have heard of). In the 1950's it switched to RTTY, and
>> eventually to FDM.
>>
>> "Beach fivers": The "beach" is the shore station in a ship-to-shore
>> circuit. Circuit condition is expressed in QSA/QRK (our equivalent of the
>> ham RST) "Fivers" is short hand for QSA5/QRK5, or "loud and clear".
>>
>> "COMBAT": The Combat Information Center, also often called "CIC". They
>> were a big customer of radio circuits, tactical voice circuits and NTDS
>> data circuits.
>>
>> "Oboes": Military messages were assigned a precedence, depending on how
>> urgent they were, and that precedence had a letter designator. There were
>> 6 levels of precedence; Deferred = "M", Routine = "R", Priority = "P",
>> Operational Immediate = "O", Emergency = "Y", and Flash = "Z". The term
>> "Oboe" referred to the "O" precedence designator.
>>
>> 73, de Hans, K0HB
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Ken Brown
>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 6:11 AM
>> To: CW Reflector
>> Subject: Re: [CW] Navy Radiomans Mid Watch
>>
>> I'm not an old time Navy RM, and I still enjoyed it. I have a few
>> questions about some of the terminology. I'd like to understand it
>> better. In this context, what does "broadcast" mean?
>> What are "beach fivers"? Is "COMBAT" an acronym for something? Oboes?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ken N6KB
>>
>>
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