[CW] New RadioTelegraph Operator License

Wed May 22 14:43:55 EDT 2013

Joe,

I don't think he was messing with you.  I think you got just 50 to 64
characters in a row followed by another equal patch of good copy - it
happened ALL the time.  Remember you needed  13 wpm x5 letters per word =65
characters in a row to pass.

When doing code tests as VEC, I'd correct a paper and let's say for 20 wpm
where you needed 100 characters in a row, I'd see 80 in a row, then another
80 then another 80 etc.  You'd sometimes see five errors in five minutes or
500 characters - which is a score of  99% correct but still because the
error came at character #100, the applicant did not get 100 characters in a
row.

I think your messy handwriting happened right where "passing" was or the
"bridge" between to really long perfect copy portions - I've seen that
hundreds of times.

The FCC guys were generally decent, there were exceptions but usually the
EIC got rid of the jerks.

v73
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On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Joe K2UF <joe at k2uf.com> wrote:

> ** ** **
>
> I don’t have a commercial ticket but when I took my general test in the
> mid 50’s I had to take a bus to ****Schenectady****, NY about 20 miles
> from home.  I was about 15 years old and that was quite a trip.  Kids  that
> age now go to **Aruba** for spring break, not back then.****
>
> ** **
>
> When I took the code test (13 wpm :o) ) the tester called me up to his
> desk , folded my copy  so only one character showed and asked me to
> identify the character.  (my hand writing under normal circumstances leaves
> something to be desired).  I identified the character correctly and he said
> “Ok you passed.  That gave me the opportunity to go back to my desk and
> sweat over the written test. I now feel he was toying with a young,
> obviously nervous kid.  I did pass the test and waited several weeks for
> the coveted ticket to show up in the mail.****
>
> ** **
>
> Ahhh the good old days!!****
>
> ** **
>
> 73 Joe K2UF****
>
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>
> With enough THRUST pig fly just fine.****
>
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> *From:* cw-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:cw-bounces at mailman.qth.net] *On
> Behalf Of *D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 22, 2013 2:43 AM
>
> *To:* **CW Reflector**
> *Subject:* Re: [CW] New RadioTelegraph Operator License
> ****
>
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>
> They also test English at 20 wpm and code groups at 16 wpm, one full
> minute without error out of five minutes sent.****
>
> I had FCC Engineer-in-Charge make me send 25 wpm on the hand key as
> required but he kept me sending for nearly the full five minutes.  Years
> later I found out he did not know Morse.  Boy did he make me sweat.****
>
> 73****
>
> David N1EA****
>
> On May 22, 2013 2:15 AM, "Kate Hutton" <katehutton at gmail.com> wrote:****
>
> I have been considering doing this ... for what reason?  Because it's
> there, I guess. I have even talked about it with the guy who administers
> the exams in my area.  He's waiting for me to tell him that I'm ready.****
>
> ** **
>
> However, I'm a new enough ham that I will have to take the code test.  I
> move NTS traffic routinely at 20 - 22 WPM, but I make mistakes under
> pressure, so the test could be interesting.  My understanding is that,
> unlike the amateur code exams, they test both sending & receiving.****
>
> ** **
>
> I'm not sure if I have all the relevant written material.  I have the
> booklet from W5YI that covers Radiotelegraph elements 5 & 6.  I also have
> Gordon West's GROL + Radar book, which has its own element on radio law.
>  Does that cover it all?****
>
> ** **
>
> My main impediment is that I am on too many traffic nets & don't have much
> time to study.****
>
> ** **
>
> 73 Kate K6HTN****
>
> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 11:31 AM, <sbjohnston at aol.com> wrote:****
>
> I'm proud to announce that the FCC granted my new RadioTelegraph Operator
> License yesterday.  It is number T000000001, so I am the very first to
> receive the new type of radiotelegraph ticket.  There doesn't seem to be a
> T000000002 yet, so apparently I am the *only* holder as well.  -grin-
> That and $5 will buy me lunch at McDonalds.
>
> When the FCC announced the new radiotelegraph license structure in January
> (see below), I asked the FCC's helpdesk what elements would be needed for
> me to get the new ticket.  They confirmed that applicants for the new
> Radiotelegraph Operator License would be required to pass written elements
> 1 and 6, and telegraphy elements 1 and 2.  I hold an Amateur Extra class
> license issued before April 15, 2000, so my passing of that 20 wpm code
> test would substitute for Telegraphy Elements 1 and 2.  I also hold a
> General Radiotelephone Operator License (was originally a First-Phone), so
> that would cover written element 1.  That left me only needing to take the
> exam for written element 6.
>
> ETA was the only COLEM (the commercial equivalent of volunteer examiners)
> that responded to my email inquiries - none of the others even bothered to
> reply.  It took me three months to work out with ETA how to take the exam.
> Their examiners based at a nearby college apparently vanished without
> notice, and thus there was a lot of dead-end emailing and back-n-forth
> discussion. ETA finally offered the option to have a local library proctor
> the exam.  I made all the library arrangements and took the exam a couple
> weeks ago.  In just a few days ETA let me know I'd passed.  Then last week
> they told me they needed two signed passport photos for the application.
> Fortunately I got their message when I was having lunch next door to a
> Walgreens that takes such photos, near a post office where I could mail
> them to ETA, all done in a half-hour or so.  ETA apparently received the
> pictures in time to submit my application on the first day the Commission
> was able to accept them, May 20.
>
> With the demise of commercial maritime CW, there is little practical use
> for a radiotelegraph ticket.  Except for museum-ships and historical club
> shore stations, there is little commercial Morse to be heard on the
> "ship-to-shore" bands.  Why bother with a new version of an antique
> license?  I appreciated the challenge of studying for a serious exam
> covering technology from a very wide time range - 1920s to 2000s, and I'd
> like to be able to operate one of the restored maritime stations some day.
>
> "Why do you want to climb **Mount Everest**?" George Mallory is famously
> quoted as having replied, "Because it's there".   It is unlikely I will
> climb **Mount Everest**, but I can always learn more about radio and
> electronics.
>
> 73   Steve WD8DAS
>
> sbjohnston at aol.com
> http://www.wd8das.net/
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> Changes to FCC Radiotelegraph Operator Licenses Coming May 20
>
> *Effective May 20, 2013*<http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2013/db0419/DA-13-798A1.pdf>,
> the FCC will no longer accept applications for First (T1), Second (T2) or
> Third Class (T3) Radiotelegraph Operator Certificates. In addition, the FCC
> has consolidated the T1 and T2 Radiotelegraph Operator Certificates into a
> new license class called the Radiotelegraph Operator License (T). According
> to the FCC, this change takes effect upon renewal: T1s and T2s that are
> renewed on or after May 20, 2013 will be renewed as Ts, but existing T1s
> and T2s will retain their current license class for the duration of the
> current license term. The Commission also consolidated the T3 with Marine
> Radio Operator Permits (MP); T3s renewed on or after May 20, 2013 will be
> renewed as MPs, but existing T3s will retain their current license class
> for the duration of the current license term. These new rules were first
> announced in a *Report and Order* (*WT Docket No. 10-177*<http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7022100656>),
> issued January 8, 2013.****
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