[CW] What is a good straight key?

Fri May 20 16:38:08 EDT 2011

HFM,

I read your message and we completely agree.  I was just starting to say
that you or anyone else can mention that they have a key and wish to sell it
here.

I was going to say I don't even mind if you knew where a "Treasure Trove" of
those beautiful keys were, and if you wanted to sell them all, it would be
OK.

But then i thought of all the reasons that EU keys are more expensive here:
transportation costs in postage or shipping, customs (I forgot that one),
and the seller or middle man has to make something to pay for dead beat
buyers - and they exist.

If you took my email to be anything but friendly email to an old friend like
you, you misunderstood me - or I better read the email I sent one more time
again.

In other words, for a nice guy like you I wouldn't mind, but then again,, it
really isn't worth doing because if you get stuck for $150 on one key it
eats up the profit on five keys.

73

DR

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Henry Frederick Meiseles 'Meils' <
meils at get2net.dk> wrote:

>  *OK DR*
> **
> *I'm just trying to make information available -- have no personal
> interest in negotiating sales of  keys or anything else  -- it was yourself
> that first mentioned selling prices - which are quite a bit*
> *higher than what I'm acquainted with in this part of the world.*
> *I did try to relay a particular key to a good acquaintance in Ca. who has
> gone to a lot of trouble*
> *obtaining BA parts, this was  at no profit to myself, mostly problems,
> just **as a return favor but became embroiled in all kinds of nonsense so
> told the Ca. ham to buy it directly because I didn't want any responsibility
> especially since I didn't personally know the **seller and some I knew and
> trusted began to  me about him.  I'm just trying to inform fellow hobbyists
> here. That's the idea, isn't it?*
> *Also have to remember that international postal/shipping prices are
> really high these days -- and there also may be problems with customs
> declarations, damage or loss under transport, etc.*
> **
> *HFM*
> **
> **
> **
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea at arrl.net>
> *To:* CW Reflector <cw at mailman.qth.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 20, 2011 2:41 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [CW] What is a good straight key?
>
> HFM,
>
> Occasional notices on selling of CW related items is permitted on this list
> - this is NOT a selling list, but if someone were to post that they had some
> key items, and if anyone interested in them, it would be allowed.
>
> However, we had in the past people who seemed to be professional traders
> who sent messages weekly if not more.  This isn't allowed.
>
> However, being a middle man is costly, it would add at least $50.00 to the
> price if not more to cover deadbeats who scam the middleman, although I hope
> that none of the subscribers here qualify for that term.
>
>  David J. Ring, Jr., N1EA <http://www.qsl.net/n1ea/>
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> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 7:22 AM, Henry Frederick Meiseles 'Meils' <
> meils at get2net.dk> wrote:
>
>>  *Hi DR,*
>> **
>> *Yes, but my price quote is for used MP Pedersens/Amplidans which are
>> still reasonably available in Scandinavia **for DKK 600 - 1000; roughly
>> $100 -  180.*
>> **
>> *I think your best bet, if your handy and have the necessary tools, is to
>> build your own key.*
>> *I've made some crude units myself and have some new design ideas in
>> mind.*
>> **
>> *Henry, Cph.*
>> *oz1uf/ou5t/oz3o,  n2nr*
>> **
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>   *From:* D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea at arrl.net>
>> *To:* CW Reflector <cw at mailman.qth.net>
>> *Sent:* Friday, May 20, 2011 1:11 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [CW] What is a good straight key?
>>
>> Unfortunately the MP Pederson key which was sold to Amplidan is no longer
>> in production - a causality of "no code" changes in testing.  Likewise the
>> Lennart Petterson key sold by Swedish Radio Supply - I think this is the key
>> you're remembering as it was about $250.  The Amplidan was about $375.00.
>>
>> They are indeed a very good keys.
>>
>> I've not used the Begali Blade but I've heard wonderful things.
>>
>> My favorite straight keys are these:
>>
>> First Tier
>>
>> Marconi 365 A B C or D series.
>> Amplidan or MP Pederson key - last sold for about $350.
>> GHD top of the line.
>>
>> If you want to just send you name one time, wires can be used, but if you
>> want to send for 8 hours a day you need something good.
>>
>> One excellent key that is easily found is the Navy Flame Proof key - and
>> will compare with these as a third tier key - but is only $35 or $50 at a
>> flea market often less.
>>
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>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 5:49 AM, Henry Frederick Meiseles 'Meils' <
>> meils at get2net.dk> wrote:
>>
>>>  *Also,  the Danish M. P. Pedersen (maritime) straight key is reputed to
>>> be an excellent key -- usually sells for about $100. **I find it great
>>> for moderate speeds but not for QRQ. Very sturdy, high quality construction.
>>> *
>>> **
>>> *HFM, Cph. oz3o n2nr*
>>> **
>>> **
>>>
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