[CW] Re: [KochMorse] Diminishing returns when learning morse

[Stoweboats at cavtel.net]

You dont know how right you are Tony...copying morse
is simply another means of conversation...your mind
will adjust and in the beginning will recogize a letter, then
a word, then a phrase or sentance or sentance and a
half...and putting it down on paper at first and then
a transition to a mill is second nature...as long as you
know how to touch type...in  radioman school you
started on a typewriter thus learned to touch type...
you can even transition to Cyrillic morse on a cyrillic
character keyboard or Hungul morse on a Korean
character keyboard...or Arabic...or whatever type of morse you are typing
out. Arabic is a bear but there
are Army mos 290 types that can do it and damned well....its simply a matter
of training your mind to
recognize the particular character, word, phrase,
sentance....practice...practice...practice. I was on a
Govt surveillance ship once (civilian) and there was
a former AF intercept opr that could copy Hungul
morse at 48 characters a min...remarkable feat...but
he practiced...saw a Russian gal at a code copying
contest in Hamburg copy English 5 letter coded groups
at 55 WPM...English, not her native Cyrillic...agn remarkable. My best
friend ended up marrying her.
Copying cw is just a skill...no more, no less. Like any
other skill it takes practice.

rgds
W4EWJ

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Martin W4FOA" <w4foa at comcast.net>
To: "K0HB" <k-zero-hb at earthlink.net>; "Joe - aa4nn" <aa4nn at earthlink.net>;
"W3GERry" <MrsScience at hotpop.com>; "CW" <CW at mailman.qth.net>; "SolidCpyCW"
<SolidCpyCW at yahoogroups.com>; "QRS-CW" <QRS-CW at yahoogroups.com>;
<KochMorse at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [CW] Re: [KochMorse] Diminishing returns when learning morse


> Well Hans,
> The truth of the matter is that the military trained literally thousands
of
> men and women to copy code just as Joe stated.  While it may not make
sense
> to you, it works.  Many of these operators probably had never heard morse
> code but showed an aptitude by taking the simple E I T test.  Many of
these
> folks wound up copying code in the high 30 and 40 wpm. I might add,
copying
> strange things around the world.  Maybe in the Navy it was different
copying
> USN broadcasts, etc..
>
> I think a big problem with folks today is that they make learning the code
> too complicated.  Its pretty elementary stuff.  While there are a few that
> just cannot learn the code, the vast majority could do it if they just
> applied themselves.
>
> I learned the code in a very unique way.  At 13 years of age, I had my Boy
> Scout's Handbook with the code written out and I used a Key on Board (hand
> key with a sounder mounted on a piece of wood).  I had no code oscillator
so
> I made the sounds either with my voice as I pressed the key or imagined
the
> sound in my head.  I learned to write the code out on a piece of paper as
I
> was learning to copy.  Later I went to a "mill" and believe it or not, I
> suffered not one bit.  I am a 50+ wpm CW operator today and must confess
> after 50+ years of CW, sending and receiving code is no different to me
than
> carrying on a conversation on the telephone.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Tony, W4FOA
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "K0HB" <k-zero-hb at earthlink.net>
> To: "Joe - aa4nn" <aa4nn at earthlink.net>; "W3GERry"
<MrsScience at hotpop.com>;
> "Fists" <Fists at qth.mailman.net>; "CW" <CW at mailman.qth.net>; "SolidCpyCW"
> <SolidCpyCW at yahoogroups.com>; "QRS-CW" <QRS-CW at yahoogroups.com>;
> <KochMorse at yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 1:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [CW] Re: [KochMorse] Diminishing returns when learning morse
>
>
> > From: "Joe - aa4nn" <aa4nn at earthlink.net>
> >
> >> We copied with a pencil up to 18
> >> wpm then went to the typewriter,
> >> finishing the class copying 25+ wpm on the
> >> mill.
> >
> > That seems like a disruptive sequence at best, and very limiting of the
> > potential of the trainee.  Copying with a pencil and copying on a mill
are
> > two distinctly different skills.
> >
> > High speed morse copying is a reflex action done at the subconscious
> > level,
> > but this learning method would depend on thinking "that was a 'J'", then
> > doing a mental conversion in transcribing the letter.
> >
> > A good 'mill operator' would never translate the 'didahdahdah' into 'J'
> > but
> > rather into pressing the right forefinger on the home key 'J'.  This
> > should
> > happen without the conscious brain thinking 'J'.
> >
> > Similarly, a good 'stick operator' would not think 'J', but would
> > subconsciously print a 'J' on paper.  To move from that skill at 18WPM
to
> > mill-copy at 19WPM implies that the training method required the trainee
> > to
> > 'think' each letter and perform a different action depending on whether
> > they
> > had a pencil or a mill at their finger tips.
> >
> > 73, de Hans, K0HB
> > Master Chief Radioman, US Navy
> >
> >
> >
> >
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