[CW] W5YI groups suggestions on ham radio licensing

[John Geiger]

Well if you read QST regularily, you notice that about
every other month they have an article on how to build
a dipole or vertical.  Shows how far the testing has
slipped.

73s John NE0P

--- Richard <cwmcode@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> "They got on the air, and no one could hear them
> because they were only
> popping open the repeater, and then if they did have
> a
> QSO many of them
> couldn't understand why since the repeater was
> strong,
> that they 
> weren't
> strong."
> 
> 
> If THIS is the case then the testing procedure must
> border on the pathetic!! What do they do down there,
> send in one box top and answer a 'skill' testing
> question along with 50 cents in coin????  (-:
> 
> Richard. VE3MFN
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  --- "David J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea@arrl.net> wrote: >
> You
> make TOO much sense John.  They won't listen to
> > you.
> > 
> > There was an editorial in QST about the "new"
> > code-free Technicians "only"
> > having two-meter FM repeaters.  Which of course
> > wasn't true.  Many of them
> > bought the advertisements about "all you need is a
> > hand held radio..."
> > 
> > They got on the air, and no one could hear them
> > because they were only
> > popping open the repeater, and then if they did
> have
> > a QSO many of them
> > couldn't understand why since the repeater was
> > strong, that they weren't
> > strong.
> > 
> > I recommend 50 watts and a good high gain vertical
> > for 2 meter FM.  That way
> > they can always be heard, and they can also do FM
> > simplex with a decent
> > signal.  (One of the "secret" weapons of 2 meters
> is
> > the G-7 Hustler
> > antenna).  (I send mcw on 2 meter fm by the
> way...)
> > 
> > Your're right.  But ever notice how it is the CW
> > operators who are always
> > right?  Maybe there is something to this CW
> > thing....
> > 
> > Going to add a muffin fan for my 2 meter FM
> > modulated CW set up.
> > 
> > 73
> > 
> > DR
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Geiger" <johngeig@yahoo.com>
> > To: "David J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea@arrl.net>;
> > <N2EY@aol.com>; <N7DC@cs.com>;
> > <cw@mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 3:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CW] W5YI groups suggestions on ham
> > radio licensing
> > 
> > 
> > > I have a couple of problems with this rationale,
> > as I
> > > will outline below:
> > >
> > > 1. The idea that code serves as a barrier to
> > getting
> > > into ham radio, and it keeps good people
> out-wait
> > a
> > > minute, the technician license hasn't required a
> > code
> > > test for 12 years or more now.  How is morse
> code
> > > keeping people out of ham radio when it isn't
> > required
> > > to be a ham?
> > >
> > > 2. The argument that even with practice
> everyday,
> > I
> > > couldn't win the tour de France or paint the
> Mona
> > > Lisa-exactly correct, and I am not allowed to
> > enter
> > > the tour de France, and no art museam will
> display
> > my
> > > "works".  So be it, I will find another hobby. 
> > The
> > > Boston Marathon will not let you enter unless
> you
> > have
> > > completed antoher certified marathon in the past
> > year,
> > > in a specified amount of time.  If you haven't,
> > tough
> > > luck, go run elsewhere.
> > >
> > > Why can't we have the same attitude about ham
> > radio?
> > > If you can't or don't want to learn code, go
> find
> > > another hobby, or enjoy the VHF priviledges you
> > have.
> > > Why do we have to allow everyone to be a ham? 
> How
> > > does that possibly benefit us?  Name one other
> > hobby
> > > that takes the attitude that we must get
> everyone
> > > involved?
> > >
> > > 3. I am getting a little tired about this "75
> > meter"
> > > argument for how the morse code test doesn't
> > screen
> > > out bad operators.  Go listen to 11 meters
> > instead.
> > > That's what it sounds like when you have no
> > licensing
> > > requirements, which is what we are headed
> towards.
> > >
> > > 4. While the VHF bands didn't deteriorate into
> > total
> > > chaos when we removed the CW requirement from
> the
> > > Technician license (WAIT!!!!!!! They just
> admited
> > that
> > > CW isn't a barrier to becoming a ham), I don't
> > think
> > > the quality of conversations improved either. 
> > Back in
> > > 1990 we kept hearing about all of these
> > technically
> > > savvy people that wanted to be hams, except for
> > the
> > > Morse Code.  So where are they?  I have yet to
> > hear
> > > anything on the local repeater that resembles an
> > EE
> > > classroom.  In fact, I shudder to think that
> > anyone
> > > with a scanner can listen to the local repeater
> > and
> > > get an idea of what ham radio is like from that.
> > >
> > > I really couldn't stomach any of their
> discussion
> > > after this, so I quit.
> > >
> > > 73s John NE0P
> > >
> > > Bigotted 20 wpm extra
> > >
> > >
> > >
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