[CW] W5YI groups suggestions on ham radio licensing

David J. Ring, Jr. [email protected]
Wed, 31 Mar 2004 15:29:21 -0500


You make TOO much sense John.  They won't listen to you.

There was an editorial in QST about the "new" code-free Technicians "only"
having two-meter FM repeaters.  Which of course wasn't true.  Many of them
bought the advertisements about "all you need is a hand held radio..."

They got on the air, and no one could hear them because they were only
popping open the repeater, and then if they did have a QSO many of them
couldn't understand why since the repeater was strong, that they weren't
strong.

I recommend 50 watts and a good high gain vertical for 2 meter FM.  That way
they can always be heard, and they can also do FM simplex with a decent
signal.  (One of the "secret" weapons of 2 meters is the G-7 Hustler
antenna).  (I send mcw on 2 meter fm by the way...)

Your're right.  But ever notice how it is the CW operators who are always
right?  Maybe there is something to this CW thing....

Going to add a muffin fan for my 2 meter FM modulated CW set up.

73

DR
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Geiger" <[email protected]>
To: "David J. Ring, Jr." <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>;
<[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: [CW] W5YI groups suggestions on ham radio licensing


> I have a couple of problems with this rationale, as I
> will outline below:
>
> 1. The idea that code serves as a barrier to getting
> into ham radio, and it keeps good people out-wait a
> minute, the technician license hasn't required a code
> test for 12 years or more now.  How is morse code
> keeping people out of ham radio when it isn't required
> to be a ham?
>
> 2. The argument that even with practice everyday, I
> couldn't win the tour de France or paint the Mona
> Lisa-exactly correct, and I am not allowed to enter
> the tour de France, and no art museam will display my
> "works".  So be it, I will find another hobby.  The
> Boston Marathon will not let you enter unless you have
> completed antoher certified marathon in the past year,
> in a specified amount of time.  If you haven't, tough
> luck, go run elsewhere.
>
> Why can't we have the same attitude about ham radio?
> If you can't or don't want to learn code, go find
> another hobby, or enjoy the VHF priviledges you have.
> Why do we have to allow everyone to be a ham?  How
> does that possibly benefit us?  Name one other hobby
> that takes the attitude that we must get everyone
> involved?
>
> 3. I am getting a little tired about this "75 meter"
> argument for how the morse code test doesn't screen
> out bad operators.  Go listen to 11 meters instead.
> That's what it sounds like when you have no licensing
> requirements, which is what we are headed towards.
>
> 4. While the VHF bands didn't deteriorate into total
> chaos when we removed the CW requirement from the
> Technician license (WAIT!!!!!!! They just admited that
> CW isn't a barrier to becoming a ham), I don't think
> the quality of conversations improved either.  Back in
> 1990 we kept hearing about all of these technically
> savvy people that wanted to be hams, except for the
> Morse Code.  So where are they?  I have yet to hear
> anything on the local repeater that resembles an EE
> classroom.  In fact, I shudder to think that anyone
> with a scanner can listen to the local repeater and
> get an idea of what ham radio is like from that.
>
> I really couldn't stomach any of their discussion
> after this, so I quit.
>
> 73s John NE0P
>
> Bigotted 20 wpm extra
>
>
>
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