[Fists] Re: [CW] Fw: ARRL Directors Meeting

Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:15:50 -0800

If you're only using the DX QSL buro for incoming, then I believe you don't
need to be an ARRL member for that.

73,

Casey, KS7J (20 wpm and counting)

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On
Behalf Of Tony Martin W4FOA
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 2:13 PM
To: n3drk; [email protected]; fists
Subject: [Fists] Re: [CW] Fw: ARRL Directors Meeting

John,
While I don't necessarily agree with the language you have chosen to use, I
do agree with your sentiments. From remarks I am reading, I think the ARRL
has "stepped on their crank" (once again) but maybe folks are finally tired
of their arragant attitude.  The next thing coming down the pike will be a
plea for us all to "pull together" (again).

Say what you may, this is just the latest step in dumbing down the hobby.
Say what you may, 5 WPM for an Extra Class license is simply unacceptable.
I suggest that maybe the ARRL should petition the FCC to do away completely
with the CW requirement, followed by a petition to do away the the Technical
Elements and the rules and regulation elements.  Then we could rename the
hobby from "Amateur Radio" to Citizens Band.....hey there's a new idea ARRL.

The ARRL offers me one thing...the DX QSL bureau.  QST has become a monthly,
glossy catalog.  It's pretty obvious that my voice, and many others is
simply being ignored.  ARRL is fast becoming like the Cable TV industry.
With no competition, they feel they can do whatever they please.  I hope the
attitude changes before they totally destroy this wonderful hobby as we have
come to know it over the past decades.

My 2 cents worth.

Tony, W4FOA
----- Original Message -----
From: "n3drk" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>; "fists" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 3:49 PM
Subject: [CW] Fw: ARRL Directors Meeting

> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" <[email protected]>
> > > To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 3:53 PM
> > > Subject: RE: ARRL Directors Meeting
> > > > Although I would have personally kept code testing in the amateur
> radio
> > > > service differently than the ARRL proposal, I can hardly argue with
> its
> > > > statement that if the Extra is the highest testing achievement, it
is
> > not
> > > > unreasonable to expect that it would include proficiency in the
> 2nd-most
> > > > used HF operating mode.
>
>   Ed, in all due respect but i beg to differ. If the Extra is the highest
>   testing achievement
>   the requirement of 5wpm code is very unreasonable. Those ops who prove
>   themselves
>   at 20wpm should have the first 25khz of each band for their
>  accomplishement.
>   Plain
>   and simple. Why dont they just do away with the damn code if they are
>   promoting
>  the 5 wpm for an Extra Class. This is pure chickenshit and lack of
>   leadership.
>
>
> > > > At this point, we have two choices -- we can choose to continue the
> > > divisions
> > > > between the code- and no-code sides, or we can get behind a proposal
> > that
> > > > contains some elements of both sides and try to rebuild the sense of
> > > oneness
> > > > and camraderie that once made amateur radio one community united in
a
> > > common
> > > > cause.
>
>   Well I choose to continue my division which exists between the code and
>   no-coders.
>   Why should I reach out and extend my hand to these people? I have
nothing
>  in
>   common
>   with them. But I support an organization which does not represent me so
> why
>   should I
>   continue to belong. I really dont belong. For 40 bucks a year this is
the
>   best the ARRL
>  can offer? This is a joke. I would much rather perfered them to eliminate
>   the code and just
>   give everyone a license than this chickenshit attitude of compromise. I
>  have
>   heard a few say
>   if the ARRL does go against our recomendations that we should continue
to
>   suppor them.
>   I am certainly not. I am not being represented so once I send off the
last
>   batch of qsls to
>   the bureau I am going to cancel my membership for good. If the ARRL
wants
>   new members
>   they are sure going about it the wrong way.
>   10-4 Good Buddy.
>
> >  john-n3drk
>
>  P.S. I ORIGINALY POSTED THIS ON QRP-L, THE LOW POWER GROUP BUT THE SITE
> OWNER WILL JUNK THE POSTS IF THERE IS ANY
> DISAGREEMENT WITH THE OPINIONS OF ED HARE OR THE ARRL.
>
>
> > > > Ed Hare, W1RFI
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of
> > > > > Bob Nielsen
> > > > > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 3:21 PM
> > > > > To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion
> > > > > Subject: Re: ARRL Directors Meeting
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Considering that just about any position the ARRL board could
> > > > > take would
> > > > > have significant dissent among the members, I find this proposal
to
> be
> > > > > quite well thought-out.  It's not necessarily what I would choose,
> but
> > > > > makes sense to me as a compromise between the various positions
and
> > > > > hopefully the FCC will receive it favorably.
> > > > >
> > > > > Let the flames begin!
> > > > >
> > > > > 72/73, Bob N7XY
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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