[Collins] Collins military S line
Dr. Gerald N. Johnson
geraldj at netins.net
Wed Jul 9 17:45:38 EDT 2014
On 7/7/2014 7:39 PM, Carl wrote:
> If I had a full run of the tube manual into the 70's Id use a 6EH7 RF,
> 6ES8 as a Pullen mixer with AGC, 6DC6's in the IF and 6ES8's in the 2nd
> mixer and PD. Separate AGC loops would handle the different tube curves.
> This model would have the highest
Many a radio has "delayed" AGC to the RF stage, essentially a voltage
divider so it sees less AGC voltage. Probably from use of remote cutoff
tubes in the IF stages and a semi remote or sharp cutoff for the RF
stage. Adding some threshold effect would enhance the AGC qualities but
wreck the linearity of the S-meter reading, just like putting a sharp
cutoff RF stage in most receivers.
>
> If I was stuck with tubes and circuits available during the different S
> Line production Id probably choose the 6BZ6 for RF, 12AT7's as straight
> mixers for early models then upgrade as better choices became available.
> Drake was smart to continually update the R4 series.
I don't know about tube availability, but I suspect early post war (WW
II) designs were encouraged to use surplus tubes because they were
available or on hand in large quantities and very cheap. Heathkit got
into electronics that way with surplus 5BP1 CRTs and 6SN7s. I expect
Collins had considerable quantities of tubes used in the ARC2 and other
radios built during the war, which was a period of great manufacturing
expansion for Collins. I don't know that to be a fact, though my first
boss, Lloyd Winter (badge number 5) told me that in the 50s they had to
redesign all the early post war broadcast transmitters because they had
used surplus vernier reduction dials but had used up all the supply and
couldn't get them any more. I would wonder if there wasn't a machinist
in the place that could have made them in the quantities needed or
specials couldn't be bought. Probably the cost was high. By then the
style probably needed to be updated and Art did like to see style
changes, even when they negated his demands for random S-line serial
numbers. He didn't always keep his thoughts connected from one week to
the next it would appear.
>
> In all cases the B+ would be no more than 150V except the audio amp
> which would be a 6V6 or 6BQ5/EL84.
I have thought it would have been nice thermally to have had a couple
small (like 6AQ5 or 6AK6) tubes in pushpull so they could be run class
AB or class B and have a significantly lower idling current than the
single ended amps running class A. Costs a tube and a socket, and an
extra wire on the output transformer plus s phase splitter and a couple
extra coupling components. The audio quality and the heat dissipation
would have been detectably better by ear and hot finger.
>
> Carl
> KM1H
>
73, Jerry, K0CQ, Technical Adviser to the Collins Radio Association
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